How should Luke die?

[Cydon]

I say Jacen should kill him.

[Sarah-Leia]

Good idea.
I don't want to put too much, because I got an infraction for a thread like this. Be careful, don't character bash. I can, however, PM you with my list of ways for Luke to die :wink:!!

[DarthSolo]

Old age. He deserves it. Yoda-like!

[Blizzard]

Old age. He deserves it. Yoda-like!
Exactly what I was going to say.

[Cydon]

I hate Luke, so I want him to die painfully. (then again, theres probably a clone of him somewhere)

[Cydon]

Good idea.
I don't want to put too much, because I got an infraction for a thread like this. Be careful, don't character bash. I can, however, PM you with my list of ways for Luke to die :wink:!!
Sure! Go ahead.

[Horse_Head]

Old age. He deserves it. Yoda-like!
Exactly what I was going to say.
Yeah... that's what I was going to say, too. :bye:

[Cydon]

Die Die dayenu, Die yah nu die yah nu!

[MandalorianJF]

Old age. He deserves it. Yoda-like!

Exactly what I was going to say.

Yeah... that's what I was going to say, too. :bye:

And me.

[MandalorianJF]

I hate Luke, so I want him to die painfully. (then again, theres probably a clone of him somewhere)

Why do you hate him?

[Jedi Master Harrison]

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Originally Posted by DarthSolo http://www.galacticsenate.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?p=808404#post808404)
Old age. He deserves it. Yoda-like!

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Originally Posted by Blizzard http://www.galacticsenate.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?p=808413#post808413)
Exactly what I was going to say.

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Originally Posted by Horse_Head http://www.galacticsenate.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?p=808474#post808474)
Yeah... that's what I was going to say, too. :bye:


And me.

Add me to that list.

[Master Shrive]

Lol. I agree as well. I think he deserves to go from old age, after he's done some final act to help secure peace in the galaxcy. I don't think I'd like to see him die in the middle of an unresolved crisis.

A good topic though. Very interesting.

[bendu]

I think Luke deserves the old age death.

[Cydon]

Why do you hate him?
Because he is "all wise and powerfull" Not to mention hes still alive!! I share the same opinion with the Big 3. Why is it that every interesting character, for example Vergere, are killed off?

[thepepgal]

I agree with the majority that Luke should die of old age. He has saved the SW universe enough times to deserve the peaceful death.

[Cydon]

Let him die saving it again!!!

[Blizzard]

Old age wins. Let's stop picking on poor Luke, now. There are better places to channel your anger.

[DarthSolo]

While I hope he does die of old age, if doesn't get that, he better go out really heroically. Honestly, I'm not a big fan of Luke myself, but he deserves high honors.

[Cydon]

True. Which is why he should die fighting Jacen to the death.

[huttslime]

I say he shouldn't die.

[DarthSolo]

Too late.


SPOILERS BELOW (Legacy comic series)








































Luke shows up to Cade as a Force-ghost. So, he dies. He continues to live, so in a way huttslime gets his wish, but Luke does, in fact die.

[huttslime]

I didn't say that he isn't going to die...

[DarthSolo]

Yes, but I was responding to you saying he shouldn't die. It's too late for that!

[huttslime]

But what if I don't want to accept Legacy of the Force as Star Wars, which would be EU bashing...

[Cydon]

For crying out loud!!! He almost 90!!

[huttslime]

Some jedi get old. Oooooold. Oooolda. Ooooooollllddddddd. Old.

[DarthSolo]

For crying out loud!!! He almost 90!!
Luke won't turn 90 for another 30 or so years (assuming that the Legacy of the Force series is 'present tense' for us), and expect him to live a few years past that. Average lifespans for Humans in the GFFA are much longer than on this earth.

Now, huttslime, the example you give is probably EU bashing, but it's not actually pertinent to this topic, as the spoiler I gave was relevant to the Legacy comic series, not the Legacy of the Force book series. So, stay on topoic. ;)

[Morridini]

I really hope that Jacen will kill Luke after a long and epic fight. Luke Skywalker deserves to go down fighting, and not of old age where his entire body fails him. And speaking of his Force Ghost in Legacy, not that he didn't look that old as a Ghost, he looked like he was in his 60s. meaning that he was killed about the time of the Legacy of the Force series. Besides Anakin Skywalker we know that all the Force Ghosts we have seen have stayed at the same age as they were when dying.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

I personally don't think there would be any shame in Luke simply dying of old age, if it's good enough for Yoda, it's good enough for any Jedi.

[Cydon]

I really hope that Jacen will kill Luke after a long and epic fight. Luke Skywalker deserves to go down fighting, and not of old age where his entire body fails him. And speaking of his Force Ghost in Legacy, not that he didn't look that old as a Ghost, he looked like he was in his 60s. meaning that he was killed about the time of the Legacy of the Force series. Besides Anakin Skywalker we know that all the Force Ghosts we have seen have stayed at the same age as they were when dying.
YES! Someone agrees with me!

[Morridini]

I personally don't think there would be any shame in Luke simply dying of old age, if it's good enough for Yoda, it's good enough for any Jedi.

Well I wouldn't say shame is the correct word here. Sure dying in old age is ok for some, but I don't think that is what I want for good old Luke. No other human Jedi Masters have died from old age yet, why should Luke not follow the others? Maybe he pulls an "Old Ben" and just simply surrenders to the will of the Force and dissapers into thin air. And keep in mind his Force Ghost from the Legacy comics, as both Legacy and Legacy of the Force work together when writing the story it would indicate that he dies soon, and I doubt he reaches "old age" yet.

YES! Someone agrees with me!

I'm scared :worried:

[Cydon]

Whys that?? :sly:

[Konig15]

You know, maybe, seeing as Luke is a semi-chirst figure, he shouldn't die on scene. Instead he should turn over power and walk away, never to be heard from again.

[Cydon]

That would be my 2nd choice. I like it.

[Master Shrive]

That could be very interesting.

[Morridini]

You know, maybe, seeing as Luke is a semi-chirst figure, he shouldn't die on scene. Instead he should turn over power and walk away, never to be heard from again.

Sure sounds cool, but Luke would never do that. He cares too much, even if for the wrong things, he could never just abandon the Galaxy.

[Urplepay]

It'd be poetic justice if Luke went through all the torment that Leia went through in the NJO, and Leia and Han treat him as badly as he treated them...Leia stands by and does nothing while Han berates Luke (just as Luke did when Mara berated Leia). Leia and Han bash Luke's parenting behind his back (just as Luke bashed Leia's parenting behind her back with Mara). Luke is captured and tortured, calls out to Leia, and she shrugs him off (just as Luke did to Leia; he felt it was more important to hang around stroking Mara's hair than to save his sister). Luke's kid dies and Leia completely ignores him (just as Luke did to Leia when Anakin died).

[Ripley]

Fighting the good fight.

[Urplepay]

Fighting the good fight.
Be nice if he did that instead of sending Leia, Han and their kids off to do it for him so he can get it on with Mara.

[DarthSolo]

Urple, if it quenches your thirst for vengeance against Mara, know that she and Luke have pretty much been in constant disagreement over an issue or two in the LOTF series. Of course, Luke handles it more rationaly than Han did the death of his best friend (give the man a break), but you would expect that from Luke, wouldn't you? Fits the character. Luke gets to be the stable figure in his relationship, where Leia gets to be the stable figure in hers.

*waits for inevitable massive reply*

[Urplepay]

Urple, if it quenches your thirst for vengeance against Mara, know that she and Luke have pretty much been in constant disagreement over an issue or two in the LOTF series.
Not quite. I still want to see everyone verbally abuse her the way they did Leia in the NJO, and Luke walk out on her and think dreamily of "the good times" with an old girlfriend. I also want to see an author compare Luke/Mara to Han/Leia in a way that favors Han/Leia and insults Luke/Mara.

Oh, and I want to see Mara's Jedi master title revoked, and have Ben snicker to himself about her ineptitude and otherwise treat her like garbage. And for authors to pointedly refer to her wrinkles and gray hair.

Of course, Luke handles it more rationaly than Han did the death of his best friend (give the man a break), but you would expect that from Luke, wouldn't you?
If by "rationally" you mean "totally uncaring toward everyone except Mara," then yes, I'd expect that from him, given his behavior in the NJO.

That's not the Luke I remember from the movies, though, or even the Luke I remember before he was yoked to the red-gold gorgon.

Fits the character. Luke gets to be the stable figure in his relationship, where Leia gets to be the stable figure in hers.

*waits for inevitable massive reply*
Luke is the "stable" figure in his relationship? Seems like he's more akin to an ineffectual father trying to keep his monstrously spoiled daughter from throwing another of her legendary tantrums.

[DarthSolo]

Ah, the Mara hate fest. Well, your wishes won't come true to the extent you want them to. And they don't need to, because of the simple fact that you are vastly (and I mean vastly) over-exagerating all the "wrong-doings" (if you can call plot obstacles wrong-doings) you see.

[Urplepay]

Ah, the Mara hate fest.
Better than the Mara worship fest/Leia hate fest that permeated the NJO.

Well, your wishes won't come true to the extent you want them to. And they don't need to, because of the simple fact that you are vastly (and I mean vastly) over-exagerating all the "wrong-doings" (if you can call plot obstacles wrong-doings) you see.
I wasn't exaggerating.

Well, maybe a little. But not as much as you think.

Still, thanks for the news that Luke actually managed to disagree with his dictator -- er, wife. I never knew he had it in him, considering I didn't think he was capable of sneezing without her written, notarized permission.

How should Luke die, though...hmm, that's a good question. It would be interesting if he died accidentally rather than getting a big, dramatic send-off.

[DarthSolo]

Better than the Mara worship fest/Leia hate fest that permeated the NJO.

Maybe, and oh just maybe, one book. I'll admit that Leia and Han didn't get a spectacular reunion and that Leia endured a lot of crap in the series, but that's kinda what happens in a war. People react strongly to the death of close friends and the death of billions of beings. Life sucks. And keep in mind that Mara had a disease and nearly lost her newborn baby. No, not nearly as tragic as the things that happened to Leia, but your extremely charged phrase "worship fest" is just blatantly inaccurate.



I wasn't exaggerating.

Well, maybe a little. But not as much as you think.

Still, thanks for the news that Luke actually managed to disagree with his dictator -- er, wife. I never knew he had it in him, considering I didn't think he was capable of sneezing without her written, notarized permission.

Yeah, ok. And you're not exagerating?


How should Luke die, though...hmm, that's a good question. It would be interesting if he died accidentally rather than getting a big, dramatic send-off.
That would be quite interesting to see. Could be quite well done, too!

[Urplepay]

Maybe, and oh just maybe, one book. I'll admit that Leia and Han didn't get a spectacular reunion and that Leia endured a lot of crap in the series, but that's kinda what happens in a war. People react strongly to the death of close friends and the death of billions of beings. Life sucks. And keep in mind that Mara had a disease and nearly lost her newborn baby. No, not nearly as tragic as the things that happened to Leia, but your extremely charged phrase "worship fest" is just blatantly inaccurate.

Yeah, ok. And you're not exagerating?
Answered via PM.

That would be quite interesting to see. Could be quite well done, too!
Yes, it could.

[Balnazzar]

The best way for Luke to die is in his sleep. Peacefuly and without suffering, for he is a good character and he deserves a non-tragic death.
All of you who think I'm wrong are unripe and childish.

[Ojres]

Lol. I agree as well. I think he deserves to go from old age, after he's done some final act to help secure peace in the galaxcy. I don't think I'd like to see him die in the middle of an unresolved crisis.

A good topic though. Very interesting.

Same as you. He should like save everyone from Jacen but has to sacrifice himself for his plan to work.

[nefertiti]

Everytime this thread comes up as "New Posts" - I say I'm not going to say anything. I know little of EU....but reading through I knew who the names were ya'll brought up.

Being an old timer...the idea of Luke dying is shocking. Is that the plan out in the book-writing world to kill him off? Has the character Luke lost his influence in the new SW galaxy?

[eddie]

Everybody dies...

[Morridini]

Everytime this thread comes up as "New Posts" - I say I'm not going to say anything. I know little of EU....but reading through I knew who the names were ya'll brought up.

Being an old timer...the idea of Luke dying is shocking. Is that the plan out in the book-writing world to kill him off? Has the character Luke lost his influence in the new SW galaxy?


Well better to kill him off now before he has to be pushed around in a wheelchair and constantly wetting himself.

[nefertiti]

^
^^

Hahaha! You guys are rats! :hug: Can't we hold off on killing Luke... I'm...I'm just not ready!!! Still getting over Chewie! :unhappy:

[TuskenRaider1]

The books are a progression. At some point Luke has to die, but it could be a while off. He could become old and wizened like OB1, or kick it by betrayel, like any other number of Jedi. If LFL signs off on it, itll be. Not just the book-writing world, but Lucas Films ltd, the man making decisions on his creation.

Either way, at least he (luke) is only wining about 1/3 of what he used to....heh.

[bluemilk]

Better than the Mara worship fest/Leia hate fest that permeated the NJO.
well LeiaFan, I'm calling shenangians on your comment. I can only think of one book where Leia was ever portrayed badly by an author: The Courtship of Princess Leia. Many authors find it hard to write the movie characters well. Why? I don't know but even Luke, for a long time, was not developed very well.

Leia was written wonderfully in the NJO and you see her become stronger as a leader, a mother and a wife. Mara Jade did not overshadow her at all. For the most part they were on different paths storywise throughout the whole of the series.

We got to see Leia evolve from a workaholic leader to a much more caring and attentive mother and wife all the while continuing to be a strong leader and fighter for the GFFA. Balance Point was particularly a beautiful love letter to her character. By the end of the NJO, Leia evolved into a woman so strong in heart and mind that she finally felt ready to fulfill another faucet of her destiny and become a Jedi Knight.

For all the more lackluster storytelling in The Darknest Trilogy; Leia becoming a Jedi was not one of them. For Star Wars novels, she was written really well and never once did the author make Leia seem naive or foolish. Although her role changed, the author stayed true to her character. That is also seen in the LOTF series so far as well.

Mara Jade has also been written as being more well developed and her attitude towards Luke has softened as she had a lot of jagged edges. But their marriage was never ideal but something too, that has evolved as it should.

[bluemilk]

As for Luke dying; I don't think it will be in LOTF and when it does happen, it will probably be in some great sacrifice a la Obi-Wan. I don't see it as being a tragic event but more going out a true hero.

[Arica]

Luke should either die of old age or by Mara's hand. Thats how he should die.

[Cydon]

Die die lukeu, die lukeu die lukeu!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayenu

[DarthSolo]

well LeiaFan, I'm calling shenangians on your comment. I can only think of one book where Leia was ever portrayed badly by an author: The Courtship of Princess Leia. Many authors find it hard to write the movie characters well. Why? I don't know but even Luke, for a long time, was not developed very well.

Leia was written wonderfully in the NJO and you see her become stronger as a leader, a mother and a wife. Mara Jade did not overshadow her at all. For the most part they were on different paths storywise throughout the whole of the series.

We got to see Leia evolve from a workaholic leader to a much more caring and attentive mother and wife all the while continuing to be a strong leader and fighter for the GFFA. Balance Point was particularly a beautiful love letter to her character. By the end of the NJO, Leia evolved into a woman so strong in heart and mind that she finally felt ready to fulfill another faucet of her destiny and become a Jedi Knight.

For all the more lackluster storytelling in The Darknest Trilogy; Leia becoming a Jedi was not one of them. For Star Wars novels, she was written really well and never once did the author make Leia seem naive or foolish. Although her role changed, the author stayed true to her character. That is also seen in the LOTF series so far as well.

Mara Jade has also been written as being more well developed and her attitude towards Luke has softened as she had a lot of jagged edges. But their marriage was never ideal but something too, that has evolved as it should.
Well, that's going to cause a storm!

Anyway, nefertiti, there are no plans, as far as I know, to kill Luke off, and in no way has he lost his influence. He continues to be at the center of almost every story, as do all of the Big Three. We are only discussing his death because, in the in-universe present (the Legacy of the Force series) , Luke's getting old. Sixty, I believe. Also, keep in mind that the Dark Nest trilogy and the LOTF series have established that the average life span of a human is much longer in the GFFA. So, I'd expect Luke to be around another 60 years.

[nefertiti]

Thank the Maker! Not being a good EU reader, I've brought the whole "clueless" on myself - so thanks for the heads up.... :lol:

[silverbolt]

Good idea.
I don't want to put too much, because I got an infraction for a thread like this. Be careful, don't character bash. I can, however, PM you with my list of ways for Luke to die :wink:!!

why would you get a warning for not liking a chrachter in a fictional universe?

i think luke should have a noble death trying to save Ben or something

[Morridini]

Or maybe he should try to turn Ben to the Ligth Side (if he do go to the Dark Side as Jacens Apprentice) and eventualy gets killed by his own son. And then that shocks Ben into the Ligth Side and he brings Jacen down, happy ending for all.

[bluemilk]

now that is interesting!

[Master Shrive]

Yeah, that could be very interesting.

[TuskenRaider1]

That could be ok. Of course, I somehow still doubt Luke goes out in this series, btu who knows. Dark Ben could be a powerful little guy....

[Cydon]

Jacen dying!?!?!?!? :no: :no: :no:

[DarthSolo]

While I don't like it, I think Jacen's death is much more likely at this point than Luke's.

[Cydon]

Deep down I know that. But I'm still fighting it!

[huttslime]

I just want to point out that when Luke does die that he will be one with the force and be able to show up for a while as a little ghost guy.

[Cydon]

Hell no! Must never happen! :no:

[huttslime]

But you can't deny it. It's gonna happen.

[Morridini]

It has already happened. He appears as a Force Ghost for his grand-grand son (or something) Cade Skywalker in the year 140 After Battle of Yavin. And his Force Ghost looks like someoen in his 50s or 60s.

[huttslime]

Vattle of Yavin

The "Vattle" of Yavin?

And where does this come from?

[Morridini]

Stupid keyboard and tired eyes.

Anyhow, that happens in the comics Legacy.
Those who make the comics Legacy and the ones who make the Legacy of the Force series are working together so not to contradict each other, so it shouldn't be shrugged off as a coincidence.

(P.S. unsure of this forums policy on Copyrighted material, but if anyone want to I can upload the comics so u can see for yourself).

[nefertiti]

Didn't know that either... well, eventually he does have to die....if it's not going to be just "alluded to" in future stories and the person who gets the job knows and likes Luke... I'd like him to be surrounded by his children, grandchildren, etc... of peaceful old age.... He deserves it.

[Cydon]

I would like that Morridini. Copyright here only refers to Hyperspace stuff I think.

[Morridini]

Very well. I will use Rapdidshare for now, unless anyone got any good alternatives (an FTP server would be best). To not get too big files at a time I upload three comics for now. The remainign four I will upload tomorrow.

This one has Legacy 0, 1 and 2. Where 0 is an introduction to the Star Wars Galaxy as it is in 100 years.
http://rapidshare.com/files/10868825/Star_Wars_Legacy_0__1_and_2.zip.html
As u see the comics I upload are in the format .cbr or .cbz, these are basicly .rar and .zip files meant to be opened with CDIsplay, download it here and install it to be able to read comics on yoru computer very easy:
http://www.geocities.com/davidayton/CDisplay

UPDATE
Here are the next three: http://rapidshare.com/files/10903713/Star_Wars_-_Legacy_3__4_and_5.zip.html

Issue 7 is released tomorrow (january 10th) and I will upload 6 and 7 once I have got my hands on 7.

[Cydon]

Thx.

[huttslime]

I'm about to read these...

[Darth Massacrus]

cool.

[Morridini]

Last Update.

Issue 6 and 7: http://rapidshare.com/files/11710242/Legacy_6-7.zip.html

I had posted a thread where people could see what I had to offer and ask for comic scans. But some lowlife **** on this forum objected against this and the mods had to shut ti down, however u can always take a look at it and PM me requests: http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=14383



Anyway, now that u ahve read some of the comics. How old do u think Luke looks like? In my opinion he seems to be in his 60s.

[Darth Massacrus]

I think Lady Lumiya shoud kill him at the same moment he kills her....

[Cydon]

Rather Jacen kill both of them...

[bendu]

I could never see Lumiya offing Luke. She's just not tough enough to take him down. Jacen might be able to take Luke on but Luke's still the Grand F-ing Master of the Jedi Order, he's gotta be the most powerful Force user in the galaxy.

Anyone else besides me hope that this time around we won't see the person going dark come back? I mean, Yoda said once you start forever does it dominate you. I love the EU but most of the time the dark side forever dominating someone's destiny is not quite true. Every time someone goes dark they come back. For once I want to see someone go with it all the way. I think Jacen should be that. Redemption has been overplayed, this time around there should be no going back.

That however has little to do with this thread's topic. I feel that Luke's end is something that definitely would require a lot of literary care if it takes place. I do not envy whichever author is given the task of killing Luke Skywalker. There isn't likely to be a death for him that satisfies everyone. But this is pure conjecture as there is nothing that explicitly tells us Luke will die in the course of the Legacy series.

[ForceFlow]

I say Jacen should kill him.

jacen killing luke is an excellent angle havent thought of that...:yes:

[Cydon]

:happydance:Someone likes my opinion!

[ForceFlow]

Die Die dayenu, Die yah nu die yah nu!

Good idea.
I don't want to put too much, because I got an infraction for a thread like this. Be careful, don't character bash. I can, however, PM you with my list of ways for Luke to die !!

issues??????:shocked: :bop: :whip: :nono:

[ForceFlow]

:happydance:Someone likes my opinion!

lol

its true luke should get killed by jacen maybe in front of the whole family you know mara, ben,han,leia,jaina u know the whole brady bunch should see it would create alot of chaos

[Cydon]

issues??????:shocked: :bop: :whip: :nono:
I do not!


its true luke should get killed by jacen maybe in front of the whole family you know mara, ben,han,leia,jaina u know the whole brady bunch should see it would create alot of chaos

Yes. Exactly!

[Sam Kenobi]

Personally, I don't see Luke dying just yet. At the same time, though, I thought that he was done for in the last LotF book.

The ideas with the most merit so far; the ones that I like, are

1) Old-age / sleep

2) Jacen

3) Obi-Wan style

and mine

4) I think he should die giving his life for someone else. Maybe Jacen or Ben, after turing dark. Not necessarily being killed, but using all of his power so that he can save their life after a mortal wound, so much that he dies himself. And if you think about it, that would kind of bring Star Wars into a full circle, so to speak. He would be "the most powerfull Jedi ever," accomplishing what his father wanted most.

[DarthSolo]

I like how you think, Sam. The fact that Luke never really had the desire to be "the most powerful Jedi ever" while Anakin obviously did, it would be a nice circle to see Luke have the mantle. Maybe they can have a Force-ghost family reunion and talk about it! It'd be a great statement about humility.

[Sam Kenobi]

:rofl:

[Cydon]

I like how you think, Sam. The fact that Luke never really had the desire to be "the most powerful Jedi ever" while Anakin obviously did, it would be a nice circle to see Luke have the mantle. Maybe they can have a Force-ghost family reunion and talk about it! It'd be a great statement about humility.


"Force ghost reunion" :scratchchin::):lol::rofl: That would be very interesting!

[ForceFlow]

Ben should kill luke

[huttslime]

Why should Luke's son kill him?

[thepepgal]

Why should Luke's son kill him?

Because he is currently learning from Jacen, who is becoming a Sith, hence he is learning the dark side.

[TuskenRaider1]

But skywalkers redeem each other....cyclical and all. Cant be Ben...

[ForceFlow]

ben could be redeamed by his mum or auntie leia ;)

plus he could be redeamed when luke is dying to

[ForceFlow]

Because he is currently learning from Jacen, who is becoming a Sith, hence he is learning the dark side.

YES!

some one who understands!!!!!!:wink: :wink:

[DarthSolo]

I am quite interested to see what happens with Ben in Exile. Luke has taken him away from Jacen. So, we'll see who ends up training him. (Kyp! KYP!)

[huttslime]

Because he is currently learning from Jacen, who is becoming a Sith, hence he is learning the dark side.


Well, I didn't read any LOTF yet. I haven't read SW for a while actually. I'm reading lots of thrillers right now.

[thepepgal]

I am quite interested to see what happens with Ben in Exile. Luke has taken him away from Jacen. So, we'll see who ends up training him. (Kyp! KYP!)

I'm still only two thirds through Bloodlines but already own Exile so it will be interesting. Kyp had fallen to the darkside at one point so he could relate to Ben.

[Sarah-Leia]

Ben should kill luke

In my story, Mara hates Luke so much that she should kill Luke!
And Leia! And Han!

[Sam Kenobi]

I'm still only two thirds through Bloodlines but already own Exile so it will be interesting. Kyp had fallen to the darkside at one point so he could relate to Ben.

Exile is not out yet . . . you must mean Tempest . . . :wink:

[Cassus Fett]

Luke should die in a spectacular death, not like the way Chewbacca died which i thought was pathetic.

[DarthSolo]

Chewbacca's death pathetic? He died saving a hero, with a moon falling on him. Pathetic?

[huttslime]

I agree. How is that pathetic? It was a tragic death though. Nobody saw it comming.

[Sam Kenobi]

I thought that the deaths of Chewbacca, Anakin, and even Ackbar were written greatly. No one wanted to see any of them go, but they went exactly the way you'd want them too.

[Morridini]

Yeah they all died in a great way. I even liked the way Anakin died, who I really didn't like prior to his death and had hoped would get a much worse death.

[thepepgal]

Exile is not out yet . . . you must mean Tempest . . . :wink:

You are correct. I had just read an article online about Exile and mixed them up. Sorry.

[thepepgal]

I thought that the deaths of Chewbacca, Anakin, and even Ackbar were written greatly. No one wanted to see any of them go, but they went exactly the way you'd want them too.

SW writers seems to make most deaths acceptable for the characters involved. They must take great care as to ensure the least number of fans would hate the way the deaths happen.

It will be hard for them to kill the big 3 of Luke, Leia and Han as they are the cash cows which alot of fans will read stories about. Some fans may stop reading the SW books if they weren't there.

When the live action tv series comes out and gives new characters for the fans to follow regularly, then the books will change direction to them more. At the moment for every PT novel there is at least 3 novels after the OT.

[Morridini]

Why would fans stop reading if they were killed off?
At the very least the fans should be grateful, to let them die before it gets too ridiculous.

[Cydon]

:yes: Ridiculous. :yes:

[bluemilk]

except Crix Madine; he went out like a punk :mad:

[thepepgal]

Why would fans stop reading if they were killed off?
At the very least the fans should be grateful, to let them die before it gets too ridiculous.

Han is currently 70's Leia and Luke about 60. If humans live longer in their universe due to better health facilities and being able to manufacture new body parts. Then living to 120 or so is not out of the ordinary. This means they still have a few productive years to live.

I know of fans who only read the EU when the major characters are involved. Not everyone is like us who buys every SW novel to complete our vision of this universe. Or because we need to know what happen to the smaller characters and where they came from.

Some have a more casual liking and only want to know what is happening to their fav characters.

They have told me they don't care what happens before the films and to minor characters. I have tried to encourage them to read more but they just don't care that much. I accept that because that is their right.

Just like they have now stopped trying to get me to read more Star Trek novels. I do have a passing interest but I don't want to know about all the characters in that universe.

[Cydon]

except Crix Madine; he went out like a punk :mad:
Now, that upset me more than Chewbacca's death.

[Sam Kenobi]

How so?

[Morridini]

I would really like to see the old characters dissapere and leave the scene for the next generation. Sure it's been a fun trip, but it should end soon.

[Cydon]

How so?
I just enjoyed the character of Madine more than Chewie. *Retreats as tomatoes are thrown at him*

[Sam Kenobi]

I see . . .

[Cydon]

Yes, many things become clear over time... :wink:

[Darth Massacrus]

You know, we never have been told what Admiral Daala's final fate is...

as for how Luke should die, just like Kenobi did.

[TuskenRaider1]

I would have to disagree with the above. Akbar was underwritten. It was a throw away line. Luke cant go out like that, a Chewie sized event is necessary.

[ForceFlow]

i stand by what i say

Ben should Kill Luke

[Darill Cyllem]

I think many of the ideas here are really interesting and valid - I'd go for either old age or en epic battle of the heroes kind of deal vs. Jacen - that wouldn't exclude an Obi-Wan like possibility and could definitely involve Luke saving the galaxy (again). But definitely not Ben.
Would it be off topic if I expressed a preference for Troy Denning to handle Luke's death in novel form? I thought his treatment of Anakin Solo's death was quite well done.

[Sam Kenobi]

I have mixed feelings about Denning. I've enjoyed all of his novels accept the Dark Nest Trilogy, which I think he did a horrible job of writing. His portrayal of characters was all wrong, and many plotlines (iirc from other topics) were left unfinished. I did enjoy Tempest, however.

[Sarah-Leia]

We are only discussing his death because, in the in-universe present (the Legacy of the Force series) , Luke's getting old. Sixty, I believe.

...Sixty isn't old. I don't know, maybe I look at the age differently to most people, but my dad is 66. I'm 13. Hehe, kinda like Ben. Anyway, in my opinion, 60 isn't old. 70 is getting old. I think. I guess this is kind of off topic, but I think you're only "old" when you start to feel it. Heck, my father is building his own house! At his age!

Even though I don't like Luke's character at all, I'm not sure I want to see any of the "Big Three" - wait, is that Luke, Han, Leia? I don't know - or any other main character get killed (a la Chewie et Anakin - c'était si triste, je ne suis toujours pas au-dessus de lui ! :crying:)

I just...don't really take change very well. I don't think I would take any OT character deaths well - in Bloodlines, when I read the bit about Han and Leia almost getting killed, I started crying :blush:.

But I think that Luke should die in a fight with Jacen.

You know, I just thought, that if Han, Luke or Leia had died in the movies it would not make such a big impact rather than if they were written off to die now. Why? It's because now we've been familiar with their stories for almost 30 years, some of us. We almost know them inside out.
I'm not sure how to phrase that, though.

[Sam Kenobi]

If 60 is the new 40 . . . doesn't that mean that everything just moves up 20 years? Add in the fact that he's a Jedi Master . . . I'd say he can live until at least 110, probably more. 130 is pushing it.

He obviously won't live until 150. That would put him into the Legacy comic series, the memories of Cade, and could be kinda absurd. So somewhere in the midle, is my estimate.

[Bobo the jedi monkey]

Dispite how cookie cutter I think Luke skywalker is, he is still the bada$$ of the galaxy, as Mara put it, "the most accomplished lightsaber artist of all time"

Luke would own Jacen
Luke would certainly own Aurra Sing
and time and time again he has owned Lumiya

Unless Jacen "the villian" of the story becomes immensely more powerfull fairly soon, and I mean like emperor powerful, he isnt killing Luke.

The likely options are martyrdom(which would be kinda cheezy since Luke is being waned out of hero status with the current series and Ben is taking his place)

Or betrayal....dun dun duuuun

Someone close will stab the farmboy in the back when he least expects it.
Im rooting for Han to go nuts when Luke tries to pull a Mace Windu on Jacen and cut him down for being the new sith. Then Han starts shooting, overcome by his anger.

Seeing Leia kill luke would be relly interesting also.

[Cydon]

Yes. Interesting revelation this is. Must consult with Emerald Squadron.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

Han and Leia killing Luke? Nooooooooooooooooooo!

[Cydon]

Hmmmm....YES!

[Nightvision90]

I've always imagined Luke going out like Obi-Wan. Sacrificing himself or trying to show Ben just how evil Jacen is.

[Darth Massacrus]

Luke should go out like a true Jedi Master, but that doesnt mean he will....

[shive4]

well everyone keeps bringing up the fact about luke appearing to cade in the comics and him looking like he's in his 60's means he has to die soon. i forget where it was mention whether from lucas or in the books but if im not mistaken force ghost cant hang around for more than 15 to 20 yrs. so that would put luke dying some where around the time cade is born. or after i dont know how old cade is in the comics.

[Morridini]

Well we don't really know if Cade sees Force Ghosts or not, it might all be drug hallucinations. Also it seems to be different from Jedi to Jedi, Anakin only showed himself once, while Ben stayed for many years.

[thepepgal]

well everyone keeps bringing up the fact about luke appearing to cade in the comics and him looking like he's in his 60's means he has to die soon. i forget where it was mention whether from lucas or in the books but if im not mistaken force ghost cant hang around for more than 15 to 20 yrs. so that would put luke dying some where around the time cade is born. or after i dont know how old cade is in the comics.

:welcome:

Interesting, I have never heard of force ghosts only being able to hang around for only 15 to 20 years. Yoda mentioned to Obi Wan that Qui Gon solve the immortality question which would suggest alot longer than 20 years.

It would be against most common beliefs about normal ghosts who can be centuries old (all those haunted castles usually have knights or lords). I know they can interact with jedi which is different.

The only reason I can think the 15 to 20 arose was to not have Obi Wan and co keep appearing throughout the years in books. That way it would force Luke to rely on himself as oppose to seeking advice from his dead masters.

I don't hold too much to the drawings and Luke's age since the cover of Sacifrice has Mara looking no more that late 30's when she is really around 50. She is a jedi not a celebrity who goes through plastic surgery to keep looking young. I can't even suggest that the force keeps you young looking since it wasn't true for Obi Wan. i thinkit is just artists' interpretations.

[Sam Kenobi]

The only reason I can think the 15 to 20 arose was to not have Obi Wan and co keep appearing throughout the years in books. That way it would force Luke to rely on himself as oppose to seeking advice from his dead masters.

Actually, I always had the impression that the deceased Jedi chose to stop showing themselves. If they show up every time that Luke has a problem, they would be teaching him to be reliant. Similar to why Ben doesn't show up when Luke is fighting Vader in Cloud City. He needs to experience life on his own.

[thepepgal]

Actually, I always had the impression that the deceased Jedi chose to stop showing themselves. If they show up every time that Luke has a problem, they would be teaching him to be reliant. Similar to why Ben doesn't show up when Luke is fighting Vader in Cloud City. He needs to experience life on his own.

I agree. It was the point of shive4 that mention 20 years so I was trying to think of a reason someone may have created the timeframe.

[Sam Kenobi]

But is there really a time frame? Maybe theres a timeframe for the authors, but I don't think that the spirits look at their calendars and say, whoops, it's been 20 years. I can't come anymore. It's a choice for the spirits to stop coming, rather than something that hinders it.

[thepepgal]

But is there really a time frame? Maybe theres a timeframe for the authors, but I don't think that the spirits look at their calendars and say, whoops, it's been 20 years. I can't come anymore. It's a choice for the spirits to stop coming, rather than something that hinders it.

To my knowledge there isn't a time frame for anyone. Only shive4 can answer this question on where this info comes from, unless anyone else has heard this news and can enlighten us.:giveup:

If there was it raises interesting question for the Legacy comic series which has Luke as a force ghost. :wink:

[Sam Kenobi]

Correct.

[jedimasterElizabeth]

Somethings tells me that Luke will die of his extremly old age.:rofl:

[BoHeDia]

^i think that would be nice, kinda loike his mentor yoda...

[ForceFlow]

I don't know if anyone has said this but maybe he would die of suicide, i mean so far he has failed so badly in so many areas its defiantly a possibility.

[Jedi Master Elad Kenobi]

Long walk in space with no EV suit

[Lord Tesla]

Run over by a landspeeder on Coruscant, as he leaves the Temple, crossing against the light while oblivious, agonizing over Jacen's death, which he'll feel responsible for, whether he actually does the hatchet work or not.

Unless of course, Jacen whacks Luke first, in which case, swap the names around, and it'll work just about as well.

Of course, there should be a Jawa nearby, to holler, "OOTEEWWEE!" as the speeder races past.

[Zedekk]

hmmm,... Luke Skywalker's death, I'd like to see it end in a battle worthy of a noble hero of the galaxy. ending after killing a dark threat that would have consumed the Galaxy if it had not been stopped by Luke. That way we could finally say, look he stood up to something and took action with conviction once again and changed the fate of billions as he did in ANH.

[Darth Nameless]

the sacrafice...luke killed by jacen...that would make him invincable :luck:

[Jedi Master Elad Kenobi]

How about he is killed by a george foreman grill?

[Lord Tesla]

How about he is killed by a george foreman grill?

In a confrontation with Jacen...

In Jacen's quarters aboard the star destroyer Anakin Solo:

Jacen: It's over! I have the George Foreman Grill set on "High"!

Luke: Don't underestimate the light side of the Force!

Luke leaps, bangs his head on the low ceiling, and falls face first on the sizzling grill.

Luke: AAAAARRRRRGHGHGHGHHG! (gasp) ACK!

Luke falls to the floor, face and upper body BBR.

Jacen: (looking down at the mess) I told you so, Loser.

[Zedekk]

How about he is killed by a george foreman grill?
*Smacks Jedi Master Elad Kenobi up-side his head with a george foreman grill. JMEK Falls down dead.* "Well whaddya know it does kill Jedi Masters..." :scratchchin:

[Sam Kenobi]

:laughing:

[Solo]

What about getting smashed by a relative of the rancor he killed in ROTJ?

[Master Magnus]

He should die of old age IMO. No more overly dramatic deaths.

[Miasmo]

I'd like for it to be simple but meaningful, and when he's as old as Obiwan was.

[Tovor]

He should die of old age IMO. No more overly dramatic deaths.
I happen to agree. Why not have Luke die at the end of a long life, at a time of peace, with the legacy of all that he had started continuing forward, in effect showing his essence living on? That's the sort of drama I could live with.

[Solo]

Actually you are right. He was always on the run, trying to do something, reach a place in a very short time, help someone, etc. He deserves a to die peacefully in his bed.