What made Leia a Princess?

[Obi-wannabe]

Why is Leia a princess? Her father was a senator, was her mother the queen of Alderaan? Someone must have this answer.

[MandalorianJF]

Mabe it had something to do with Naboo.

[Miasmo]

Bail Organa was head of the Royal Family of Alderaan.

[MandalorianJF]

Bail Organa was head of the Royal Family of Alderaan.

Am...Royal Family of Alderaan? Is there really such thing?

[huttslime]

Someone must have this answer.

I am the almighty huttslime, ask away!

(as for the princess part, you can only be a princess if you are in a royal family, as in being the daughter of the king of queen.)



The almighty huttslime has spoken.

[Miasmo]

Am...Royal Family of Alderaan? Is there really such thing?
Yes. Check Bail Organa's databank entry at starwars.com.

[James]

Bail Organa's wife was queen of Alderaan, and in the ROTS novelisation Bail is styled as "prince consort". In the ROTJ novelisation, Obi-Wan tells Luke that the Alderaanian royal family had little real power, that it was just there for tradition's sake, as Alderaan had long been a democracy. Being the (adoptive) daughter of the Queen, Leia would obviously be titled as "princess".

But then, later on in the ROTJ novelisation Kahn goes on to tell us that Mrs. Organa had been Minister of Education :um:

[THX-1138]

Wow what a good question. Finding a good answer will be 100x harder. Yes Leia had to be the adopted daughter of royalty (well said). As usual we have conflicts in the data (SW data bank + ROTJ novelization = migraine). If the novelization makes her mother minister of Education, then Bail must be the true sovereign. James what does the novelization say specifically about Bail if anything at all? The Novelization is older than the SWDB and I am more prone to side with older sources than new.

[MandalorianJF]

I am the almighty huttslime, ask away!

(as for the princess part, you can only be a princess if you are in a royal family, as in being the daughter of the king of queen.)



The almighty huttslime has spoken.

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[MandalorianJF]

No one knew that Leia was not Ball's real doter.

[Tovor]

Why is Leia a princess? Her father was a senator, was her mother the queen of Alderaan? Someone must have this answer.
Natalie Portman is Jewish. So is Carrie Fisher. That makes Leia a JAP, a Jewish Alderanian Princess. :flirt:

[Konig15]

Is Alderaan's line Matriarchal? I wouldn't think so because They are the House of Organa, and as far as I know that was always Bail's name. Then again I think Bail's title was, apart from senator, Vicroy, meaning one who rules in the stead of a king with a king still ruling, like the British Viceroys of India. Frankly I have no knowldge and consider powerless monarchies to be superfulous, so I have nothing to gain.

[Sarah-Leia]

Um...Bail's family were the House Organa of Alderaan, though it was a democracy, they were the highest on the planet and practically ruled the place. Breha was queen, so Leia's the princess.

[James]

Wow what a good question. Finding a good answer will be 100x harder. Yes Leia had to be the adopted daughter of royalty (well said). As usual we have conflicts in the data (SW data bank + ROTJ novelization = migraine). If the novelization makes her mother minister of Education, then Bail must be the true sovereign. James what does the novelization say specifically about Bail if anything at all? The Novelization is older than the SWDB and I am more prone to side with older sources than new.

The ROTJ novelisation isn't canon, there are various things in it that are not true, eg. Obi-Wan saying that Owen Lars was his brother, that Mrs Organa was Minister of Education. The ROTJ novelisation simply states that Bail was senator. We now know that Mrs Organa was actually Queen, and Bail simply the consort. The SWDB is canon, the ROTJ novelisation is not.

[thepepgal]

Considering ROTS names Leia's adopted mother as Queen Breha in the credits so it is canon that she is royalty. Since Leia was adopted into the family she then gain the title Princess. As they were royalty, their family is often described as a "House".

[THX-1138]

The ROTJ novelisation isn't canon, there are various things in it that are not true, eg. Obi-Wan saying that Owen Lars was his brother, that Mrs Organa was Minister of Education. The ROTJ novelisation simply states that Bail was senator. We now know that Mrs Organa was actually Queen, and Bail simply the consort. The SWDB is canon, the ROTJ novelisation is not.

Why should an earlier source (The novelization) not be considered canon? Was it not aproved by LFL when published? Did we not have to pay money to buy and read it? What we have here is either a case of revisionism or a simple error.

Owen Lars being Ben's brother can be found in a lost scene from the original shooting script of ROTJ. This same scene also says Luke and Leia's mother lived with Leia on Alderaan for a few years before she died of a broken heart.

ROTJ Script - Third Draft (http://www.scifiscripts.com/scripts/returnofthejedi.txt)

"When your father left, he didn't know your mother was pregnant. Your mother and I knew he would find out eventually, but we wanted to keep you both as safe as possible, for as long as possible. So I took you to live with my brother Owen on Tatooine... and your mother took Leia to live as the daughter of Senator Organa, on Alderaan." - Ben Kenobi

"The Organa household was high-born and politically quite powerful in that system. Leia became a princess by virtue of lineage... no one knew she'd been adopted, of course. But it was a title without real power, since Alderaan had long been a democracy. Even so, the family continued to be politically powerful, and Leia, following in her foster father's path, became a senator as well. That's not all she became, of course... she became the leader of her cell in the Alliance against the corrupt Empire. And because she had diplomatic immunity, she was a vital link for getting information to the Rebel cause. That's what she was doing when her path crossed yours... for her foster parents had always told her to contact me on Tatooine, if her troubles became desperate." - Ben Kenobi

This is why this backstory appears in the novelization. Until the new sources said otherwise most of us had no reason to believe this was not so. As for me, the prequels and the SWDB have done little to change my mind.

Food for thought my friends.:bye:

[Master Magnus]

The ROTJ novelisation isn't canon, there are various things in it that are not true, eg. Obi-Wan saying that Owen Lars was his brother, that Mrs Organa was Minister of Education. The ROTJ novelisation simply states that Bail was senator. We now know that Mrs Organa was actually Queen, and Bail simply the consort. The SWDB is canon, the ROTJ novelisation is not.
Yes, the novelization as a whole is canon. The canoncity of SW materials is decided on by case-by-case basis by LFL. Thus, the claim that Obi-Wan and Owen were brothers is non-canon.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

If Owen Lars had been Ben's brother, would that have also made him naturally strong with the force?

[JMAS]

Leia was the adopted daughter of Queen Breha Organa, of Alderaan. This we know is why she has the title of Princess.

However, her real mother, Padme Amidala Skywalker was also the queen of Naboo for a time even though it was an elected term position.

[James]

Leia was not princess because her mother was Queen Amidala of Naboo. The royal position on Naboo is a weird mixture of constitutional monarchy and presidential elections. I think I remember reading a long time ago that once, there had been a ruling dynasty on Naboo but by Amidala's time it was purely elective. The titles of royalty did NOT pass down to Luke and Leia. Leia was princess simply because her adoptive mother was queen of Alderaan - the Organa family inherited the Alderaanian throne as of right in contrast to Naboo.

[MandalorianJF]

Padme Amidala Skywalker

Was "Skywalker" really a part of her name?

[huttslime]

After mariage of course

[MandalorianJF]

After mariage of course

Yes, but no one knew about that.

[huttslime]

Well, nobody called her that. I guess her unofficial name is skywalker then...

[MandalorianJF]

Well, nobody called her that. I guess her unofficial name is skywalker then...

maybe

[thepepgal]

Maybe Padme never took the name Skywalker. Since she was offically known as Padme Amidala from when she became queen. Her maiden name was Padme Naberrie.

As a elected royal she would probably kept the name like former presidents are still called Mr President.

[MandalorianJF]

Maybe Padme never took the name Skywalker. Since she was offically known as Padme Amidala from when she became queen. Her maiden name was Padme Naberrie.

Thank You
That's what I am trying to say.

[thepepgal]

Thank You
That's what I am trying to say.

You're welcome.

I don't think she did, since she would never been able to use it in public.

[huttslime]

I don't know if I knew that her last name was Naberrie...

Maybe I did, I can't recall but it seems familiar.

[thepepgal]

I don't know if I knew that her last name was Naberrie...

Maybe I did, I can't recall but it seems familiar.

It was her family's name and she dropped it once she became queen since they have to take an appropriate royal title surname.