Airplanes

[huttslime]

Want to talke about ariplanes? here you go...

I will start off with the 787-3/8/9, also known as the 7E7.

what do you guys think of the interior? I was in a mock-up at the Boeing center in Seattle.

here is a pic:

[huttslime]

DreamLiner pic:

[huttslime]

The new cockpit looks even better than the 777 (more advanced and digital. the 747-300 was the last Boeing airplane to have only analog displays I think, for at least comercial planes. The first digital one was the 747-400.)

[MandalorianJF]

Tehnical data:
not all of it, get more here (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787family/programfacts.html)

Major program milestones
- Firm configuration completed - September 2005
- Major assembly began - June 2006
- First flight - 2007
- First delivery - 2008

Material breakout on 787
- Composites - 50%
- Aluminum - 20%
- Titanium - 15%
- Steel - 10%
- Other - 5%

More fuel efficient
20 percent more fuel efficient than similarly sized airplanes

Hours of wind tunnel tests
15,000 hours of wind tunnel tests

[MandalorianJF]

Want to talke about ariplanes? here you go...

Thanks for making the thread.

[Solo]

here is a pic:



I have to admit, it looks really nice an relaxing, but how many f us will be able to see this section. Most airliners will just use it for business and economy class will be shiny, bright and narrow as usual. Frankly speaking fter three hours of economy class flight, every plane looks the same to me narrow and boring. I only enjoyed my flights with Emirates and Singapore becuase their in flight entertainment systems are quite nice. Meals were good, too.

[Tovor]

DreamLiner pic:


That is a hella sweet looking ride, inside and out. Very, very impressive.

[MandalorianJF]

I have to admit, it looks really nice an relaxing, but how many f us will be able to see this section. Most airliners will just use it for business and economy class will be shiny, bright and narrow as usual. Frankly speaking fter three hours of economy class flight, every plane looks the same to me narrow and boring. I only enjoyed my flights with Emirates and Singapore becuase their in flight entertainment systems are quite nice. Meals were good, too.

Just wondering: how many times have you flown in an aircraft? As for me, 3.

[MandalorianJF]

That is a hella sweet looking ride, inside and out. Very, very impressive.

Yea it looks like Ferrari Enzo, in and out.

[Solo]

Just wondering: how many times have you flown in an aircraft? As for me, 3.

About 25 or 27 times.

[James]

The worst time I've flown is going economy from Hong Kong to Moscow via Aeroflot.

[Solo]

The worst time I've flown is going economy from Hong Kong to Moscow via Aeroflot.

That was a brave decision you made James. What was the plane? Old Russian Tupolev or Airbus?

[Blizzard]

Please don't link to pictures from other sites that are not your own. Upload the pictures here. Thanks.

[empire21]

As nice as those planes look it's still not going to get me on one :no:

[MandalorianJF]

About 25 or 27 times.

What?
Who are you?

[MandalorianJF]

The worst time I've flown is going economy from Hong Kong to Moscow via Aeroflot.

Do you live in Moscow?

[Miasmo]

That first pic up there looks like something from aboard the Enterprise from Star Trek. Nice.

I've never been on a plane though. There hasn't really been any instance for me where a flight would be more practical then a car or bus ride.

It's probably going to take a funeral to get me on one. And that way there's less of a chance of crashing, since traveling to a funeral and the chance of myself dying try and cancel each other out. :)

Wait, I forget that I'm often on the receiving end of God's irony stick. Maybe that wouldn't be the best time to go.

[huttslime]

I have to admit, it looks really nice an relaxing, but how many f us will be able to see this section. Most airliners will just use it for business and economy class will be shiny, bright and narrow as usual. Frankly speaking fter three hours of economy class flight, every plane looks the same to me narrow and boring. I only enjoyed my flights with Emirates and Singapore becuase their in flight entertainment systems are quite nice. Meals were good, too.

The economy section will look the same, but with orange seats, and a little less space.

The 777-300ER can do the london-sydney flight without stops, when it comes out. Unbelievable, isn't it?

I can post a list of all the airines that ordered the 787, as people seem to be interested in certain airlines.

[huttslime]

Allright, here is that list I promised:


Completed Contracts (2005):
All Nippon Airways (ANA): 30 787-3, 20 787-8, both with RR (Rolls Royce) engines.
Air New Zealand: 2 787-8 with Rolls Royce
Blue Panorama Airlines: 4 787-8
First Choice Airways: 6 787-8 with General Electric GEnx engines
Japan Airlines: 13 787-3, 17 787-8 with RR
Continental Arilines: 5 -8
Korean Air: 10 -8
Ethiopian Airlines: 10 -8
Icelandair: 2 -8
Northwest Airlines: 18 -8
Unidentified customer: 6 -8
Total: 143

Contracts to be concluded (2005): (may be concluded by now...)
Vietnam Airlines: 4 -8
Primaris Airlines: 20 -8
Continental Airlines: 5 -8
Air China: 15
China Eastern: 15
Shanghai Airlines: 9
Xiamen Airlines: 3
China Southern: 10
Hainan Airlines: 8
Air India: 20 -8
Royal Air Maroc: 5 -8

If you cant find your airline, Im sure they will buy some eventually (especially the big ones like United and Lufthansa - the ones I fly with most often...)
If you want more specific info on the differet types (-3/8/9) just ask.
Information from "Boeing 787 Dreamliner - Flying Redifined," book.

[MandalorianJF]

Allright, here is that list I promised:


Completed Contracts (2005):
All Nippon Airways (ANA): 30 787-3, 20 787-8, both with RR (Rolls Royce) engines.
Air New Zealand: 2 787-8 with Rolls Royce
Blue Panorama Airlines: 4 787-8
First Choice Airways: 6 787-8 with General Electric GEnx engines
Japan Airlines: 13 787-3, 17 787-8 with RR
Continental Arilines: 5 -8
Korean Air: 10 -8
Ethiopian Airlines: 10 -8
Icelandair: 2 -8
Northwest Airlines: 18 -8
Unidentified customer: 6 -8
Total: 143

Contracts to be concluded (2005): (may be concluded by now...)
Vietnam Airlines: 4 -8
Primaris Airlines: 20 -8
Continental Airlines: 5 -8
Air China: 15
China Eastern: 15
Shanghai Airlines: 9
Xiamen Airlines: 3
China Southern: 10
Hainan Airlines: 8
Air India: 20 -8
Royal Air Maroc: 5 -8

If you cant find your airline, Im sure they will buy some eventually (especially the big ones like United and Lufthansa - the ones I fly with most often...)
If you want more specific info on the differet types (-3/8/9) just ask.
Information from "Boeing 787 Dreamliner - Flying Redifined," book.


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[huttslime]

Why is that so important to you?

(I cant decide if your post was sarcastic or not...)




oooh! I see, its in that link you posted, isnt it? boeing.com?

[MandalorianJF]

Why is that so important to you?

(I cant decide if your post was sarcastic or not...)




oooh! I see, its in that link you posted, isnt it? boeing.com?

No man, it's not sarcastic

You know it's hard to look for good info when you have very little time, even when the page is write in front of you. The link that I posted had a lot of stuff, I just read the titles, did not have time to do the rest, if I would had time I would post all the stuff and not the link.

I did not realize what you posted what on the link that I posted. (when I wrote "wow")

[huttslime]

I already new that. I know everything. I was just testing you. You passed. Welcome to the club.

[MandalorianJF]

Welcome to the club.

Is that a joke?

[huttslime]

Yes.

[MandalorianJF]

Yes.

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/228/lolololwp3.png

[James]

No I don't live in Moscow, it's when I went on holiday to Russia.

Let's just say Aeroflot really fit the Russian stereotype. It was a Boeing 737 I think, it was crappy as. lol

[huttslime]

Picture of the mock-up I was in, and here is the link (http://www.futureofflight.org/currentexhibits.html) to the web-site.

[MandalorianJF]

No I don't live in Moscow, it's when I went on holiday to Russia.

Let's just say Aeroflot really fit the Russian stereotype. It was a Boeing 737 I think, it was crappy as. lol

I flew in 767 3 times.

[MandalorianJF]

So why did we stop talking?
Come on
Tell as what kind of planes you guys like, as for me I love the F-22 raptor.

[huttslime]

I never thought about a favorite airplane, but I would say the Lokheed Hercules, also known as the C-130.

[Solo]

What?
Who are you?

I am working for an international company as a sales engineer. I travel most of the time, but believe or not my manager travels may be 6 times more than me.

[Darth Octavious]

So why did we stop talking?
Come on
Tell as what kind of planes you guys like, as for me I love the F-22 raptor.
That's a beautiful plane!

[MandalorianJF]

but believe or not my manager travels may be 6 times more than me.

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5883/sliderwowoz6.gif

[MandalorianJF]

That's a beautiful plane!

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3493/thankyousignni7.gif
I love the way is looks too,
but the reason why it's my favorite is not the looks, it's the performance.

[MandalorianJF]

I am working for an international company as a sales engineer. I travel most of the time, but believe or not my manager travels may be 6 times more than me.

Just wondering: what company do you work for?
don't reply if you don't wont to, I will understand

[huttslime]

Nobody interseted in my favorite airplane? And what about everybody else? What are your favorites?

[MandalorianJF]

Nobody interseted in my favorite airplane? And what about everybody else? What are your favorites?

Your is 787 right? Well yes it's a good aircraft, very comfortable, flue efficient.

[huttslime]

look at this (http://www.galacticsenate.com/showpost.php?p=805470&postcount=31) post and you will be enlightened beyond your imagining.

[huttslime]

As nice as those planes look it's still not going to get me on one :no:

Why not?

[MandalorianJF]

As nice as those planes look it's still not going to get me on one :no:

Why not?

Yea, Why not?

[MandalorianJF]

Nobody interseted in my favorite airplane? And what about everybody else? What are your favorites?

Your is 787 right? Well yes it's a good aircraft, very comfortable, flue efficient.

look at this (http://www.galacticsenate.com/showpost.php?p=805470&postcount=31) post and you will be enlightened beyond your imagining.

I never thought about a favorite airplane, but I would say the Lokheed Hercules, also known as the C-130.

Oh yea, C-130. It's a good aircraft, my Major used to pilot one.

[huttslime]

Has anyone been on a real flight simulator befor?

at that Boeing Future of flight place I went into a combat-flight simulator. It was fun, it had about 2gs, so you could feel the airplane speed up and slow down and roll and all that.

[huttslime]

Major? you mean a airforce person?

so you really are planning on being in the air force aren't you? Does it pay a lot to fly there?

[MandalorianJF]

Has anyone been on a real flight simulator befor?

Yea, on an aircraft carrier.

[MandalorianJF]

Major? you mean a airforce person?

Yea, He is my commanding officer.

so you really are planning on being in the air force aren't you? Does it pay a lot to fly there?

Well...just as I said in one other thread, I have started my training, AFROTC (Air Force Reserve Officers' Training Corps)

[huttslime]

Where? I was on 2 battleships, The USS Wilmington (or was it called USS North Carolina, I can't remember...), and the Aircraft carrier in Charleston, the Yorktown.

[MandalorianJF]

Where?

USS Intrepid


I was on 2 battleships, The USS Wilmington (or was it called USS North Carolina, I can't remember...), and the Aircraft carrier in Charleston, the Yorktown.

Do you remember the name of the second one? Or atlest what class was is? Nuclear Aircraft Carrier Nimitz Class?

[huttslime]

It says it on my post, its the Yorktown.

[MandalorianJF]

It says it on my post, its the Yorktown.

You mean "Yorktown" as an USS Yorktown?

[huttslime]

Yes, its a famous ship, it almost sunk a couple of times

[MandalorianJF]

Yes, its a famous ship, it almost sunk a couple of times

Not familiar with it, can you tell me where it now, I wont to see it from a satellite.

[huttslime]

I found the website, click here (http://www.patriotspoint.org/). (the offical website)

[huttslime]

Satelite image here (http://www.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=&daddr=40+Patriots+Point+Rd+Mt+Pleasant,+SC+29464&oi=manybox&ct=10&cd=1&resnum=4)

[MandalorianJF]

Satelite image here (http://www.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=&daddr=40+Patriots+Point+Rd+Mt+Pleasant,+SC+29464&oi=manybox&ct=10&cd=1&resnum=4)

Well that's not exactly satellite
but here I got some satellite pics
30857 ft (http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2441/1ab9.png)
2046 ft (http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7079/2ew7.png)
1084 ft (http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7133/3wv9.png)
The coordinates are: 23.47 N and 78.54 W

[huttslime]

If you click on satelite at the top right corner, the picture turns into a satelit picture

[MandalorianJF]

If you click on satelite at the top right corner, the picture turns into a satelit picture

Yea I know just the way I did it, look easier, and + people can just save that pic on there computer now.

Oh yes and thanks for the address

[huttslime]

I found the website, click here (http://www.patriotspoint.org/). (the offical website)

I also posted this, you must have missed it.

[MandalorianJF]

I also posted this, you must have missed it.

Actually I have seen it, I just did not comment.

[Solo]

Just wondering: what company do you work for?
don't reply if you don't wont to, I will understand

Let's just say it is a company that manufactures large valves for water networks and sells it products nearly in every part of the world.

[MandalorianJF]

Let's just say it is a company that manufactures large valves for water networks and sells it products nearly in every part of the world.

OK

[Solo]

Hey, I've always wanted to travel with a 747-400, but never found the chance. The largest plane I've ever travelled with was A340-600, or should I say longest.

But my all time favourite airliner was MD-11. I do not know that plane really looks nice to me.

[MandalorianJF]

Hey, I've always wanted to travel with a 747-400, but never found the chance. The largest plane I've ever travelled with was A340-600, or should I say longest.

But my all time favourite airliner was MD-11. I do not know that plane really looks nice to me.

Trust me man, there is nothing so special in it. I mean, yea, it's the biggest but you do not realize it when you are in it (only if you are a pilot).

[huttslime]

I was on a 747 a couple of times actually, the most recent being a few years back. I only remember that that one was the loudest airplane I have ever been in, that is not a turbo-prop. The other 747s I have been in are too long ago to remember, but I remember that one of them was from the KLM airline. For somereason I haven't been on one for at least 5-6 years. Also, the largest current airplane is the A380. I also think that the 777 actually has more seats in a row than a 747 which has a 3-4-3 arrangement, I think, and the 777 has a 3-5-3 or a 2-5-2 arrangement.


Editation: Actually the 777 has a 3-3-3 arrangement, and carries slightly less passengers thatn the 747-400 at around 450-500 passengers.

the first image is the 747, the second the 777.

[MandalorianJF]

I was on a 747 a couple of times actually, the most recent being a few years back. I only remember that that one was the loudest airplane I have ever been in, that is not a tubo-prop. The other 747s I have been in are too long ago to remember, but I remember that one of them was from the KLM airline. For somereason I haven't been on one for at least 5-6 years. Also, the largest current airplane is teh A380. I also think that the 777 actually has more seats in a row than a 747 which has a 3-4-3 arrangement, I think, and the 777 has a 3-5-3 or a 2-5-2 arrangement.


Editation: Actually the 777 has a 3-3-3 arrangement, and carries slightly less passengers thatn the 747-400 at around 450-500 passengers.

the first image is the 747, the second the 777.


Good pic info
thanks

[MandalorianJF]

I only remember that that one was the loudest airplane I have ever been in

Were you inside of the plane or out side.

[huttslime]

Inside. It must have been an older model, maybe the -300 or earlier.


I was trying to find a video of the -80 (also know as the dash eighty or 707) doing the famous barrel roll. Does anyone have a heading? North, south, east, or west? At least not google video.

[MandalorianJF]

Inside. It must have been an older model, maybe the -300 or earlier.

OK

[MandalorianJF]

I really hate to change the topic but check this out:
Thunder bird crash
out side view (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdPl4sT0HCU&mode=related&search=)
cockpit view (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsNi9ArhoSY&mode=related&search=)

[huttslime]

Doesn't this airplane look like it's doing a wheelie?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1151660&size=L&width=1200&height=810&sok=JURER%20%20%28qngrfgnzc%20%3E%20qngr_fho%28ABJ %28%29%2C%20VAGREINY%2024%20UBHE%29%29%20%20beqre% 20ol%20ivrjf%20qrfp&photo_nr=32

[MandalorianJF]

Doesn't this airplane look like it's doing a wheelie?

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1151660&size=L&width=1200&height=810&sok=JURER%20%20%28qngrfgnzc%20%3E%20qngr_fho%28ABJ %28%29%2C%20VAGREINY%2024%20UBHE%29%29%20%20beqre% 20ol%20ivrjf%20qrfp&photo_nr=32

sort of

[huttslime]

Its actually landing though, isnt it?

[huttslime]

Does anyone think that the Mil Mi-35 looks like the Republic Gunship?

Kuat Drive Yards Rothana Heavy Engineering Low Altitude Assault Transport/Infantry (LAAT/i) Repulsorlift Gunship. The longest name you could ever give to a vehicle. Crazy isnt it?

[Cassus Fett]

So why did we stop talking?
Come on
Tell as what kind of planes you guys like, as for me I love the F-22 raptor.

For me its the Supermarine Spitefire Mrk 1, aswell as the Tornado GR4 (hopefully i'll be its pilot in about a year or two's time), JSF (or is the JCA/JCF now) and the F-22 raptor

[huttslime]

The tornado is a european fighter, do you live in europe?

[MandalorianJF]

The tornado is a european fighter, do you live in europe?

Actually it's German, but it's also used in Italy and UK.

[MandalorianJF]

For me its the Supermarine Spitefire Mrk 1, aswell as the Tornado GR4 (hopefully i'll be its pilot in about a year or two's time), JSF (or is the JCA/JCF now) and the F-22 raptor

JSF, yea, that's a good fighter. It will replace F-16, F-18, A-10, and AV-8. But unfortunately it is expected to go on duty in 2008.
USAF has requested 1763 F-35A, USN/USMC has requested 680 F-35B/C, Royal Navy has requested 60 F-35B, RAF has requested 90 F-35B, and possibly Australia, Canada, Denmark, Israel, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Singapore and Turkey will buy them as well.

[MandalorianJF]

Does anyone think that the Mil Mi-35 looks like the Republic Gunship?

Kuat Drive Yards Rothana Heavy Engineering Low Altitude Assault Transport/Infantry (LAAT/i) Repulsorlift Gunship. The longest name you could ever give to a vehicle. Crazy isnt it?

sort of, but it's a chopper.

[MandalorianJF]

Its actually landing though, isnt it?

Yep, it is.

[huttslime]

Actually it's German, but it's also used in Italy and UK.

In fact I am half german half american, I knew it was german, but I wasn't sure if other countries used it too.

[huttslime]

sort of, but it's a chopper.

Choppers are sometimes called gunships. Thats where the name gunship comes from in SW I think.

[MandalorianJF]

Choppers are sometimes called gunships. Thats where the name gunship comes from in SW I think.

Really? I never head that.
Well, now I found out. Thanks

[huttslime]

Certain choppers only though. They have them in their names.

here is a link to a history gunship page

http://www.helis.com/types/gunship.php

[MandalorianJF]

Certain choppers only though. They have them in their names.

So...am...which ones?

[huttslime]

I would have to do some research, but I have seen it before.


edit: I think that the "gunship" is not officially part of the name, but maybe just a nickname, since the helicopter carries all those guns and things around.

[MandalorianJF]

I would have to do some research, but I have seen it before.

Alright, but do you at least remember what company or country produced it?

[MandalorianJF]

Are you talking about Mi-8 (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mi8t/)?

[huttslime]

If you ever heard of the LucasArts game Mercinaries, in the game (at least on the website) it calls one of the choopers YAH-56 Gunship, and some other ones.

Post # 500 for me.

[MandalorianJF]

If you ever heard of the LucasArts game Mercinaries, in the game (at least on the website) it calls one of the choopers YAH-56 Gunship, and some other ones.

No, never head of it

[huttslime]

http://www.lucasarts.com/games/mercenaries/main.html

[MandalorianJF]

Post # 500 for me.

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And now you can finally make polled, have fun!!!

[huttslime]

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I like the band. Thank you. You are 21 posts away of your big day.

[MandalorianJF]

I like the band. Thank you. You are 21 posts away of your big day.

I know, I can't wait.
My 500th post will be a poll, I have planed it when I was like 90 posts.

[huttslime]

I just created a poll (http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?p=806724#post806724).

[MandalorianJF]

I just created a poll (http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?p=806724#post806724).

I voted

[huttslime]

I saw.


I glad.

I like.
I candy.


:howdy: - :jango:

[MandalorianJF]

I like.
I candy.


Me too.

[huttslime]

Me like.
Me candy.

You are.
You trying.
You to.
You get.
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You posts.
You right.
You now.
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You you.
You not.
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15 glorious posts away.

[MandalorianJF]

Me like.
Me candy.

You are.
You trying.
You to.
You get.
You 500.
You posts.
You right.
You now.
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15 glorious posts away.


I have been trying to get 500 when I had 90 posts, and the closer I get the more I wont.

[MandalorianJF]

Me like.
Me candy.

You are.
You trying.
You to.
You get.
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15 glorious posts away.


Why isn't there a section for spam, were I can just make post (14 of them).

[huttslime]

This is technically spamming because we are just posting for no reason.

[MandalorianJF]

lets get back to the topic

8 to go

[MandalorianJF]

So...am...who likes F-35 Lightning II?

JSF, yea, that's a good fighter. It will replace F-16, F-18, A-10, and AV-8. But unfortunately it is expected to go on duty in 2008.
USAF has requested 1763 F-35A, USN/USMC has requested 680 F-35B/C, Royal Navy has requested 60 F-35B, RAF has requested 90 F-35B, and possibly Australia, Canada, Denmark, Israel, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Singapore and Turkey will buy them as well.

[MandalorianJF]

I just created a poll (http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?p=806724#post806724).

same, here (http://www.galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=14093)

[huttslime]

I just voted!

Good poll.

[Cassus Fett]

The tornado is a european fighter, do you live in europe?

Yeah im from the UK and its used by Germany, Spain and i think France has them aswell... which i believe the Eurofighter Typhoon F2 is going to replace them which is sort of a copy of a Swedish Saab fighter, i forget what its called.

[MandalorianJF]

Today I found this picture on line.
And I don't get it, what is going to happen next?

[huttslime]

It looks like that airplane wil go behind the building.

Am I correct in thinking that this is a Rockwell (Boeing) B1-B Lancer?

[MandalorianJF]

Am I correct in thinking that this is a Rockwell (Boeing) B1-B Lancer?

Yes, you are correct.

[MandalorianJF]

It looks like that airplane wil go behind the building.

What do you mean?

[Solo]

Sorry guys, but that picture seems to be fake. I've witnessed how much sound a B1 creates. Nobody would allow one to get so close a civilian building.

[MandalorianJF]

I've witnessed how much sound a B1 creates.

I do know that it creates a lot of sound, but just wondering: where did you witness it?

Sorry guys, but that picture seems to be fake. Nobody would allow one to get so close a civilian building.

Maybe it had no chose, maybe it was falling?

maybe it was falling?
Hope not

[Cassus Fett]

Saab JAS 39 Gripen.. what does it remind you of?

[MandalorianJF]

Saab JAS 39 Gripen.. what does it remind you of?

A mixture of Mirage 2000 and Su-37. Why?

[MandalorianJF]

Technical data of Gripen:

General characteristics

* Crew: 1-2
* Length: 14.1 m (46 ft 3 in)
* Wingspan: 8.4 m (27 ft 7 in)
* Height: 4.5 m (14 ft 9 in)
* Wing area: 25.54 m (274.9 ft)
* Empty weight: 6,620 kg (14,600 lb)
* Loaded weight: 8,720 kg (19,200 lb)
* Max takeoff weight: 14,000 kg (31,000 lb)
* Powerplant: 1× Volvo Aero RM12 (GE404) afterburning turbofan, 54 kN dry, 80 kN with afterburner (12,000 lbf / 18,100 lbf)
* Wheel track: 2.4 m (7 ft 10 in)

Performance

* Maximum speed: Mach 2
* Range: Combat radius of action with air-to-surface and enhanced self-defence weapons: >1200km (>650Nm) (750 mi)
* Service ceiling: 15,000 m (50,000 ft)
* Rate of climb: m/s (ft/min)
* Wing loading: 341 kg/m² (70,3 lb/ft²)
* Thrust/weight: 0.94

Armament

* 1x 27 mm Mauser BK-27 cannon
* 6x AIM-9 Sidewinder (Swedish designation Rb-74) or IRIS-T (Swedish designation Rb-98)
* 4x AIM-120 AMRAAM (Swedish designation Rb-99), BAe Skyflash (Swedish designation Rb-71 Skyflash), MICA or Meteor
* AGM-65 Maverick (Swedish designation Rb-75), KEPD 150, or various other laser-guided bombs, rocket pods.
* RBS-15 Mark 2 air-to-sea anti-ship missile
* Bombkapsel 90 cluster bomb

[Solo]

I do know that it creates a lot of sound, but just wondering: where did you witness it?



Maybe it had no chose, maybe it was falling?


Hope not

The first time I witnessed one while it was taking off was in a airforce show in England. Than I saw one lifting up from Kuwait airport and the sound it made shook our poor 737 pretty badly.

I did not hear many B1 crashes. One made a belly landing some time ago, because of a hydraulic failure.

If you are interested in this type of stuff and want to get true information, better read airforces magazine.

[MandalorianJF]

The first time I witnessed one while it was taking off was in a airforce show in England.

Can you tell me what base was that on or in what city?

[huttslime]

What I meant by "It looks like it is going behind the building" is that it its an optical illusion, meaning that it looks like its crashing into the building, but is actually farther off.



:sidxmas:

[MandalorianJF]

What I meant by "It looks like it is going behind the building" is that it its an optical illusion, meaning that it looks like its crashing into the building, but is actually farther off.



:sidxmas:

OH...OK...I see your point.

[Solo]

Can you tell me what base was that on or in what city?

Boy you don't trust anyone, do you?

It was Farnborough Airshow and the plane belongs to the 28th Bomb Squadron. It was US Plane.

Me and my manager were in England for some business meetings and we just had a chance to spare one day for the show. Most of it was spent on the road, but we had a chance to see some warbirds.

[huttslime]

WARBIRDS!!!!!






&

[MandalorianJF]

Boy you don't trust anyone, do you?

It was Farnborough Airshow and the plane belongs to the 28th Bomb Squadron. It was US Plane.

Me and my manager were in England for some business meetings and we just had a chance to spare one day for the show. Most of it was spent on the road, but we had a chance to see some warbirds.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6880/nononotv3.gif http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6880/nononotv3.gif

I trust you
I'm just wondering where did you see that
That's all

[MandalorianJF]

WARBIRDS!!!!!






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[MandalorianJF]

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[MandalorianJF]

Does anyone like Su-37 here?

[Sluggo]

Isn't that the one with forward-swept wings? That's funky!

[MandalorianJF]

Isn't that the one with forward-swept wings? That's funky!

No, what you are thinking is Su-47 and I am talking about Su-37
You can find out more about it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOgMigr1q7Q).
In my opinion it's the best fighter in the world, because of it's shape and 3D thrust vectoring.

[huttslime]

I just recalled a flight on a B777 where we got struck by lightning.

How many people fly on an airplane and get struck by lightning?

[huttslime]

Has anyone heard of the B744ERF before? (aka Boeing 747-400ERF)

Looks interesting, has only three windows in the top level (only windows on whole plane in fact...)


Is it new?




Airfleets.net (http://airfleets.net) seems to have almost every airline flight logs, going as far back a 1978 and more. Has airplane registration numbers of alomst every airplane, has records for every registration including photos of individual planes and crash records. Also includes airline info that includes registration numbers and other info for stored, historical, crashed, and currently used airplanes. I didn't have a chance to look at all the features yet, there is probably a lot more. Very good site. (flight logs include flight numbers, airlines, departure and destination airports, registration numbers, airplane type, time and date, and possibly some other information)

[huttslime]

No, what you are thinking is Su-47 and I am talking about Su-37
You can find out more about it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOgMigr1q7Q).
In my opinion it's the best fighter in the world, because of it's shape and 3D thrust vectoring.

That's a Sukhoi isn't it? What country does it originate from?

[huttslime]

Here is a 787 pic with manufacturer details:

[MandalorianJF]

That's a Sukhoi isn't it? What country does it originate from?

Russia

[MandalorianJF]

Can someone explain to me what happened to this F-15: here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5390323915509164657&q=fighter+jet&hl=en).

[huttslime]

If you look carefully, then you might notice that it looks like somebody took a video of a underwater bomb testing and added a fighterjet to it to make it look like it shot out of the water.

[empire21]

Huttslime, how about posting some more interior shots like you did in your first post.

[huttslime]

Here are some from a Flight Simulator X Add-on (Fly the Boeing 787 - by Abacus) that I took:

(there are not many interior pictures released)


The windows are 80% larger.

[MandalorianJF]

If you look carefully, then you might notice that it looks like somebody took a video of a underwater bomb testing and added a fighterjet to it to make it look like it shot out of the water.

Maybe, but who would wont to spends that much of his/her time doing it? And for What?

[huttslime]

For fun. And it probably doesn't take that long. And think about this, can an airplane jump out of water? You need oxygen for the engines.

[MandalorianJF]

can an airplane jump out of water? You need oxygen for the engines.

That is the reason I can't understand the video.

For fun. And it probably doesn't take that long.

Trust me it does. I have photoshopped normal pictures, and videos, thous that really long (and it's also really hard).

[huttslime]

Not if you have a big flim studio. But you have to look closely, doesn't it look like the airplane just doesn't fit with the water, even if it's a little? Another reason why this couldn't be real is because the water jumps up after the airplane. The engines should push the water down with all the thrust that they use to propel the airplane into the air. Also how would you start the engines in the first place? You need oxygen as I mentioned before.

[huttslime]

Let me change that after viewing the video again. It looks more like the explosion was added to the airplane, and not the other way around.

EDIT: Now if you think about it, the engines weren't on before the airplane shot out of the water, that's weird. How did it shoot out?

[MandalorianJF]

But you have to look closely, doesn't it look like the airplane just doesn't fit with the water, even if it's a little? Another reason why this couldn't be real is because the water jumps up after the airplane. The engines should push the water down with all the thrust that they use to propel the airplane into the air. Also how would you start the engines in the first place? You need oxygen as I mentioned before.

^That is what I can't understand.


Not if you have a big flim studio.

OK, I guess.

[huttslime]

Now if you think about it, the engines weren't on before the airplane shot out of the water, that's weird. How did it shoot out?

[MandalorianJF]

OK, the part that "it is not real" is true. Because the water would have gotten into the air-intakes and the engines would not work.

[MandalorianJF]

How did it shoot out?

I just thought of something: You know how they shot out missiles from the submarines, well, you get the point.

[huttslime]

So we agree on that it isn't real, but we don't agree that it was "photoshopped?"

What I think is that someone took a video of a underwater bomb testing and a video of a airplane taking off sideways and somehow put it together.

[MandalorianJF]

So we agree on that it isn't real

yes

but we don't agree that it was "photoshopped?"

from one point of view "no", from the other "yes" because what else could it be.

[huttslime]

I just thought of something: You know how they shot out missiles from the submarines, well, you get the point.

Yes, I was thinking something like that, maybe from some sort of underwater base or something.

[MandalorianJF]

What I think is that someone took a video of a underwater bomb testing and a video of a airplane taking off sideways and somehow put it together.

Yea, except who would bother?

[MandalorianJF]

Read this:

[huttslime]

I just thought of something: You know how they shot out missiles from the submarines, well, you get the point.

Submarine Launched Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, according to a friend.

Yea, except who would bother?

Very good question. Another reason why it would be hard to make is because if you took a video of an airplane taking of and putting it sideways, and then having to take off all the runway and background of the image would be very hard and exhausting work.

[huttslime]

Read this:

Yes, there would have been some water splashing at the wings too.

[huttslime]

Does anyone have Flight Simulator X Deluxe Edition? We can share aircraft online with the deluxe edition.

[Solo]

Just some information I wanted to share with you. Missiles shot from submarines when they are submerged are send to the surface by means of high pressure air. Missile is inside a tube and tube is filled with high pressure air. When the top cover is opened missile is sent to the surface, actually a little above the surface. As soon as the missile leaves water, its own rockets start working and it goes to its target.

[Jedi Master Harrison]

* Stay on target *

[MandalorianJF]

I just found this cool site about aircraft, and well you might wont to check it out. HERE (http://www.globalaircraft.org/)
I found every aircraft there, and I do mean "every".

[huttslime]

Is there a page where you can find every model that boeing designed, including ones that are just concpet or that were never built. Not just the 7_7 series or military fighters. More like the B377.

[MandalorianJF]

Is there a page where you can find every model that boeing designed, including ones that are just concpet or that were never built. Not just the 7_7 series or military fighters. More like the B377.

I'm sour that they are all on the site the I poster earlier, just in different sections, if you don't find something tell me and I will report it.

[huttslime]

Well, you'd have to digg pretty deep. I'll look into it. I'm planning on making a .NET application that has a list and description and picture for every Boeing vehicle.

[huttslime]

Here is my first screenshot for the Boeing Application. Very simple for now.

[huttslime]

New image:

[huttslime]

Here is a sample, please tell me if it's good or not.

It includes a sample of all the info that will be included for each airplane. Buttons do not work yet. Many additional features are to be added.

http://www.freewebs.com/ghaargh/bsg002.PNG

[MandalorianJF]

^Look good
Did you write all that?

[huttslime]

The info is just from boeing.com, but the code and images and the user interface is all written by me. You can discuss this program here (http://galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?p=816629#post816629) starting now. (that's where the updates will be and where you can comment)

(the images are partly from me - that next gen. 737 pic for example is by boeing - the other pictures are customized. I don't really have any image software other than to make icons and paint)

[MandalorianJF]

but the code and images and the user interface is all written by me.

I love the way the interface looks!
Good job man!

[huttslime]

Thanks. I worked all night on it yesterday. A few hours of work. I'm possibly planning on making one for Lockheed, Airbus, and anything else people might be interested in. There is still a lot to be worked on for the Boeing one. I'm finished with the "home page" and am now working on the commercial jets. Then I will work myself through the Military models and go to the other section. After that I will make something else too. A help dialog box definitely and an about box with sources. If anyone can give some info on specific airplanes or any feedback would be great.

[MandalorianJF]

Thanks. I worked all night on it yesterday. A few hours of work. I'm possibly planning on making one for Lockheed, Airbus, and anything else people might be interested in. There is still a lot to be worked on for the Boeing one. I'm finished with the "home page" and am now working on the commercial jets. Then I will work myself through the Military models and go to the other section. After that I will make something else too. A help dialog box definitely and an about box with sources. If anyone can give some info on specific airplanes or any feedback would be great.

Good Luck!!!

[MandalorianJF]

I'm possibly planning on making one for Lockheed, Airbus, and anything else people might be interested in.

BTW, does Lockheed have any civilian aircraft?

[huttslime]

L1011 TriStar.

[huttslime]

btw look at this thread - some pics I made - http://galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?p=818160#post818160

[MandalorianJF]

L1011 TriStar.

Isn't that a mid-air refueling aircraft?

[huttslime]

Maybe. I know that the DC-10 aka KC-135 is one. The L1011 is a passenger plane for sure.

[Solo]

Isn't that a mid-air refueling aircraft?

RAF used to have a couple of tanker L-1011s, but I do not know if they are still using them or not.

[huttslime]

On another forum somebody told me to ask boeing for permission to use the Boeing logo, images, and text. So I will do just that. Btw, you can check on my visual studio thread on some updates.

As for the KC-135 I mentioned earlier, it's actually the hull of a 707.

[huttslime]

Here is build 1.0.2571.33598 of my Boeing Guide:

(new features: Random images at startup; image viewer; about the boeing company complete; commercial aircraft partially complete; help viewer has new topics; and other things that I can't list right now)

The Complete Boeing Guide Build 1.0.2571.33598, Setup Build Version 7.10.3077.0 (http://freewebs.com/ghaargh/Boeing-guide-build-1.0.2571.33598.zip)

[MandalorianJF]

Hate to change the topic but I found this:

I found this pic where F-18F gets a lock on F-22. Something is wrong here, 4th generation fighter can not destroy a 5th generation fighter (especially if it's stealthy).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/nc_creeper/F18FGUNF-2203.jpg

You can get some info here (http://www.alert5.com/2006/04/fa-18f-guns-down-f-22a.html)

[Krogenar]

Do you have any information on 'holographic planes', like the ones used on 9/11? Just curious. :)

[MandalorianJF]

Do you have any information on 'holographic planes', like the ones used on 9/11? Just curious. :)

What do you mean?

[huttslime]

On the page it says that it was a red excercise. What does that mean? Just like I read somewhere about Green Flag 93 - what's that?

[Krogenar]

What do you mean?

It's this thing where you can make it look like there's really a plane in the air, but it's not really there. Do they exist?

[MandalorianJF]

On the page it says that it was a red excercise. What does that mean? Just like I read somewhere about Green Flag 93 - what's that?

By "red" they probably mean Red Flag. "It has long been known that if a pilot can survive his first 10 combat mission the success in his other mission improves dramatically" was said on Fighter Pilot Red Flag DVD. So Red Flag is (are) 10 mission witch every pilot has to take before going into real combat.
And abut Green flag I am not sour, I will inform you as soon as I find out more abut it.

[MandalorianJF]

I found this abut Green flag:

Green Flag stresses realistic training with more than 75 aircraft flying in a variety of combat scenarios. This training prepares U.S. forces to fight in a high-tech combat environment while providing Air Force leaders valuable planning experience. Unlike other Nellis flying exercises, which primarily focus on training for aircrew members, the Green Flag exercise focuses on electronic combat training. The exercise is where aircrews, intelligence and Air Operations Center people receive training. When properly applied, electronic combat can increase combat effectiveness.

Since the late 1970s, Green Flag exercises over the desert mountain ranges of Nevada have helped thousands of aircrews from every branch of the military and different countries around the world master their aerial combat skills.

The main mission of Green Flag was to prepare pilots to fight in a combined air, ground and electronic threat environment. One of the biggest lessons learned during the Vietnam War was that if pilots can survive their first seven combat sorties, their chances of survival during a conflict significantly increases. With that mentality, the Green Flag exercise and similar exercises held here help get the pilots through those first seven missions in a simulated combat environment.

Nellis Air Force Base hosted Green Flag 98-2, a large-scale, electronic warfare exercise. This will be the first flag exercise that included actual Scud missile systems as targets. The exercise gave participants a chance to work on refining the process for timely location, targeting and destruction of Scud missile systems. Besides U.S. forces, more than 700 people from Spain, Singapore, Germany, Canada and the United Kingdom participated in the exercise. The exercise started March 21 and continued through April 18.

Green Flag 00-4, the last ever, was also the first training exercise program to test the Joint Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses program initiated by the Department of Defense. The JSEAD premise has been used in other operations such as Operation Allied Force and Operations Northern and Southern Watch, but this is the first time it has been used in a controlled environment to test and evaluate its efficiency. During the JSEAD portion of the exercise, held the last two weeks of the six-week combat training, F-15E Strike Eagle crews incorporated the aerial skills they had learned during the first four weeks and added in the threat and mission of destroying surface-to-air missile sites.

[huttslime]

Thanks!

I updated some things in my visual studio thread, so you can check out the the progress on the boeing thing.

[MandalorianJF]

Am...Well...I lost the link, and I can't find it, can you post it again?
Sorry

[huttslime]

http://galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=14050

[MandalorianJF]

http://galacticsenate.com/showthread.php?t=14050

I posted

[huttslime]

MJF:

In a few days I will have a web page running for this project.

You can email me if you want at michael.reed@atourcity.com if you want to help me research or if you want to be involved in any other way. I will credit people who helped on this. (this will be a lot of work if I will do this alone)

I decided to rename it from The Complete Boeing Guide to something like Electronic Aviation History Project. If you can come up with a better name, please brainstorm.

[MandalorianJF]

MJF:

In a few days I will have a web page running for this project.

You can email me if you want at michael.reed@atourcity.com if you want to help me research or if you want to be involved in any other way. I will credit people who helped on this. (this will be a lot of work if I will do this alone)

I decided to rename it from The Complete Boeing Guide to something like Electronic Aviation History Project. If you can come up with a better name, please brainstorm.

I am not that good with civilian aircraft. But you did say that you are planing on making a section for military aircraft, and if you need anything on the military part then I'm in.
Don't forget who I am, I can get valuable information.
Well...just as I said in one other thread, I have started my training, AFROTC (Air Force Reserve Officers' Training Corps)

[huttslime]

Yes, I will try to make a searchable archive with everything about aviation - may it be historical aircraft, company profiles, technologies, modern and concept aircraft. It will get more comprehensive over the years, and the more people work on it, the faster we can catch up with history and add as much information as we can get, and continue to add as we go along and learn about new aircraft. So, try to take notes on any aircraft you wish and write a little essay or profile or whatever on it and submit it to me. When I get something new I added to the database I will post it on the main page of the website and put it on the website. Please make sure you include your sources and citations for everything so we are not plagiarizing (or however it's spelled). The sources should be in some sort of format like MLA or other common formats. Also, the information should at least include the most important of all information like stats, first flight, dates, and other information - if available. You can get started right away. Just make sure you tell me what you are working on so multiple people don't work on the same thing (right now it's just me and you - tell other people and ask if they are interested). I am working on the Boeing B&W Model 1. I also need to mention that it's not just Boeing anymore - it can be by any manufacturer.

Let's get down to business!

(there is no timelimit to anything, so take your time - I don't want to put anyone under pressure)

I guess I can put you in charge of Military craft then. I know more about civillian and commercial planes myself, I guess.

Was that a lot to write...


EDIT: I decided that it can also be in any language. If you write it in a different language make sure that you also write it in english. You can also translate already existent entries into whatever language you want. This way, (I won't be using them immediatly) I can make the database searchable in different languages. People from all over the world can use this tool to find the info they want. (first word has to be spread though)

[huttslime]

Here is a banner I made for the site:

http://www.freewebs.com/ghaargh/ahpmainpic.png

[huttslime]

The banner has been updated:

http://www.freewebs.com/ghaargh/ahpmainpic.png

[MandalorianJF]

Here is a banner I made for the site:

http://www.freewebs.com/ghaargh/ahpmainpic.png

I love it

[MandalorianJF]

So, try to take notes on any aircraft you wish and write a little essay or profile or whatever on it and submit it to me. When I get something new I added to the database I will post it on the main page of the website and put it on the website. Please make sure you include your sources and citations for everything so we are not plagiarizing (or however it's spelled).

If I find good info do I have to summarize it? Can you just write the place where I got it. And if you do wont it summarized I have no problem with that, except it would be shorter lol.

[MandalorianJF]

And just so you know:
I will not only take information from the internet, I have FIGHTER PILOT: OPERATION RED FLAG DVD (http://www.boeingstore.com/catalog/index.cfm?fuseaction=product&id=4602), FIGHTER PILOTS: F-14, F-15, F-16, AND 18 DVD (http://www.boeingstore.com/catalog/index.cfm?fuseaction=product&id=4937), and I am also ordering Wings: American Pride DVD Collection (http://shopping.discovery.com/product-30225.html). I also have Jane's Aircraft Recognition Guide Fourth Edition (http://www.amazon.com/Janes-Aircraft-Recognition-Fourth-Guides/dp/0060818948/sr=1-1/qid=1169756297/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-9152959-7427950?ie=UTF8&s=books), and every now and then I go to the library to look at Jane's All the World's Aircraft 2004-2005 (http://www.amazon.com/Janes-All-Worlds-Aircraft-2004-2005/dp/0710626142). Oh and I also watch the Military channel (http://military.discovery.com/).

[MandalorianJF]

And I will probably take information from this sites: Global Aircraft (http://www.globalaircraft.org/) and Air Force Technology (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/).
Also if you wont good videos can be found on Flightevel350 (http://www.flightlevel350.com/) and good pictures (wallpaper/ high resolution pictures) can be found on airliners (http://www.airliners.net/).

[MandalorianJF]

EDIT: I decided that it can also be in any language. If you write it in a different language make sure that you also write it in english. You can also translate already existent entries into whatever language you want. This way, (I won't be using them immediatly) I can make the database searchable in different languages. People from all over the world can use this tool to find the info they want. (first word has to be spread though)

The only other language that I know is Russian, if you wont I can try translating it (by it I mean the database, just the database, because it's very hard).

[huttslime]

I love it

I like it too. I saw that there are some edges in it. I will have to take that out to make it look more smooth.

If I find good info do I have to summarize it? Can you just write the place where I got it. And if you do wont it summarized I have no problem with that, except it would be shorter lol.

I don't think that I understood the question right.

And just so you know:
I will not only take information from the internet, I have FIGHTER PILOT: OPERATION RED FLAG DVD (http://www.boeingstore.com/catalog/index.cfm?fuseaction=product&id=4602), FIGHTER PILOTS: F-14, F-15, F-16, AND 18 DVD (http://www.boeingstore.com/catalog/index.cfm?fuseaction=product&id=4937), and I am also ordering Wings: American Pride DVD Collection (http://shopping.discovery.com/product-30225.html). I also have Jane's Aircraft Recognition Guide Fourth Edition (http://www.amazon.com/Janes-Aircraft-Recognition-Fourth-Guides/dp/0060818948/sr=1-1/qid=1169756297/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-9152959-7427950?ie=UTF8&s=books), and every now and then I go to the library to look at Jane's All the World's Aircraft 2004-2005 (http://www.amazon.com/Janes-All-Worlds-Aircraft-2004-2005/dp/0710626142). Oh and I also watch the Military channel (http://military.discovery.com/).

I never said that you sould only use the internet. Any sources are acceptable, as long as you trust them. (I don't want to post unproffessional info that may not be true)

And I will probably take information from this sites: Global Aircraft (http://www.globalaircraft.org/) and Air Force Technology (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/).
Also if you wont good videos can be found on Flightevel350 (http://www.flightlevel350.com/) and good pictures (wallpaper/ high resolution pictures) can be found on airliners (http://www.airliners.net/).

Good idea. With SQL Databases I can store any type of data. I will look into it. If it's possible, can you turn in links for images for whatever plane you were working on, that way I don't have to spend extra time on that. (you can also scan pictures, if possible - there might be legal issues. I will contact Boeing.com for legal stuff for images and text)

The only other language that I know is Russian, if you wont I can try translating it (by it I mean the database, just the database, because it's very hard).

That's fine. I can translate into german. As more people with different nationalities join, we can become a multilingual project. There will only be more people who can work on this if word is spread, so just tell some friends and tell them to tell more people. Don't tell anyone untill I have domain though, because there would be no use if they can't access it. I will probably be able to start posting by the end of next week - I am getting a Novell Netware Client for remote desktop connection to the atourcity.com server. When I start working there I can start posting things there for free. (for now we will just have a folder like http://www.atourcity.com/aviation or something like that)

[MandalorianJF]

I don't think that I understood the question right.

If I find something do I have to write it in my own words or not?

[MandalorianJF]

I never said that you sould only use the internet. Any sources are acceptable, as long as you trust them.

I know,I'm just telling you some of the places where I will get the info.

(I don't want to post unproffessional info that may not be true)

Yea, I know. I hate when websites have wrong information.

[MandalorianJF]

Good idea. With SQL Databases I can store any type of data. I will look into it. If it's possible, can you turn in links for images for whatever plane you were working on, that way I don't have to spend extra time on that. (you can also scan pictures, if possible - there might be legal issues. I will contact Boeing.com for legal stuff for images and text)

Ok
Do you wont me to just post the pics here or email them to you?

[huttslime]

If I find something do I have to write it in my own words or not?

I guess that depends on the source. If it's ok with the source that you do that. I don't really know.... Do whatever you feel is right. The way I am doing it is that I write down some notes on a sheet of paper, and then write my own summary. (I didn't really do that for the Boeing Company thin)

Ok
Do you wont me to just post the pics here or email them to you?

Just send me an email with the links, not the pictures themesleves. (if you can get the link - you may just find the address of the page that has the pic on it if you don't know the address to the individiual picture)

BTW: I will be gone starting tomorrow to sunday evening on a ski trip, so I will not be available.

[MandalorianJF]

I was going to start next week, but I have a compatishion on the 3rd which I have to train for. So next will will be slow, but after that I will do things much faster.

[huttslime]

It doesn't matter how fast you do it, or if you do it at all. I appreciate that you are helping me.

[huttslime]

btw can you give me your name, I need it if you want to be on the credits.

[MandalorianJF]

btw can you give me your name, I need it if you want to be on the credits.

I will PM you.

[huttslime]

Already recieved the message.

[huttslime]

MJF: Check out this page, since your are interested in flying an F-22 - I just found this on accident: http://www.f22fighter.com/

[MandalorianJF]

MJF: Check out this page, since your are interested in flying an F-22 - I just found this on accident: http://www.f22fighter.com/

Actually that link leads me right to the homepage. But it you are toking abut this (http://www.aviapedia.com/files/fighters/F-22/F-22_crash.jpg)crash, then I know.

[huttslime]

not what i meant, i just found the page on accident, it wasn't supposed to be a pic of an accident.

[MandalorianJF]

not what i meant, i just found the page on accident, it wasn't supposed to be a pic of an accident.

OH, I thought you made a grammar mistake.

Actually I knew of that site's existence. Sorry
It's a good site, good info.

[huttslime]

Looks like nobody has posted here since the last time I was here - lets talk about the F-35 Ligthning II.


It has a vertical engine so it can land vertically like a Harrier, but is not slow and bulky.