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MandalorianJF
11-15-2006, 04:32 PM
I noticed that in AOTC, sen #10 that is where the AA-9 Coruscant freighter is flying through space, it is not flying in hyperspace. Why not? Coruscant and Naboo are far away, the ship has to be in hyperspace to get there, and it's not.

Here are some pics:
1 (http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3779/ndvd083vz3.png)
2 (http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/50/ndvd084en0.png) this pic did not come out so good, but I think it's ok
3 (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9007/ndvd085qo1.png)

As far as I know when the ship is traveling in hyperspace it look like this:
1 (http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/237/ndvd088dz5.png)
2 (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3940/ndvd089oe7.png)

RollaFett
11-16-2006, 04:02 PM
How do we know that it was supposed to be traveling in hyperspace? We're never told of the timeline during the film. It's entirely conceviable that the ship didn't do light speed and simply took its time getting to Naboo.

MandalorianJF
11-16-2006, 05:30 PM
took its time

Like how many years?

JMAS
11-17-2006, 01:15 PM
It's also hightly likely they were just at a hyperspace jump transfer point. It's not like they could just jump into lightspeed as soon as they left Coruscant's orbit and then then drop out again right over Naboo. They would have to plot a course, go to hyperspace, drop out of hyperspace to change course, and so forth and so on.

Master Magnus
11-17-2006, 02:02 PM
I noticed that in AOTC, sen #10 that is where the AA-9 Coruscant freighter is flying through space, it is not flying in hyperspace. Why not? Coruscant and Naboo are far away, the ship has to be in hyperspace to get there, and it's not.

Here are some pics:
1 (http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3779/ndvd083vz3.png)
2 (http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/50/ndvd084en0.png) this pic did not come out so good, but I think it's ok
3 (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9007/ndvd085qo1.png)

As far as I know when the ship is traveling in hyperspace it look like this:
1 (http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/237/ndvd088dz5.png)
2 (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3940/ndvd089oe7.png)
The reason why we don't see it traveling in hyperspace (and the reason why we don't see any hyperspace travel scenes in the prequels at all) is that George Lucas wanted to introduce the visual aspects of hyperspace travel in the Original movies. However, a scene seems to have been prepared of the AA-9 while in hyperspace (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/explore/selects/2000/11/select20001123.html).

Master Magnus
11-17-2006, 02:11 PM
I noticed that in AOTC, sen #10 that is where the AA-9 Coruscant freighter is flying through space, it is not flying in hyperspace. Why not? Coruscant and Naboo are far away, the ship has to be in hyperspace to get there, and it's not.

Here are some pics:
1 (http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3779/ndvd083vz3.png)
2 (http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/50/ndvd084en0.png) this pic did not come out so good, but I think it's ok
3 (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9007/ndvd085qo1.png)

As far as I know when the ship is traveling in hyperspace it look like this:
1 (http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/237/ndvd088dz5.png)
2 (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3940/ndvd089oe7.png)
The reason why we don't see it traveling in hyperspace (and the reason why we don't see any hyperspace travel scenes in the prequels at all) is that George Lucas wanted to introduce the visual aspects of hyperspace travel in the Original movies. However, a scene seems to have been prepared of the AA-9 while in hyperspace (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/explore/selects/2000/11/select20001123.html).

How do we know that it was supposed to be traveling in hyperspace? We're never told of the timeline during the film. It's entirely conceviable that the ship didn't do light speed and simply took its time getting to Naboo.
We do know the time frame, it's set down in the novelizations and the events in the movie. This quote (http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=125719&start=717) by Mr. Chee of LFL is interesting in this context.

Mothman
11-17-2006, 02:58 PM
I noticed that in AOTC, sen #10 that is where the AA-9 Coruscant freighter is flying through space, it is not flying in hyperspace. Why not? .....

Traveling' through hyperspace ain't like dustin' crops, etc., etc.,

:bye:

MandalorianJF
11-17-2006, 04:25 PM
Traveling' through hyperspace ain't like dustin' crops, etc., etc.,

:bye:

I'm not a farmer. LOL

thepepgal
11-18-2006, 07:41 AM
It's also hightly likely they were just at a hyperspace jump transfer point. It's not like they could just jump into lightspeed as soon as they left Coruscant's orbit and then then drop out again right over Naboo. They would have to plot a course, go to hyperspace, drop out of hyperspace to change course, and so forth and so on.

Like JMAS, when I saw the film, I had imagined they were in the middle of a course change.

It was also a way (setting the scene) for GL to show they weren't on the ground anymore and on their way to Naboo.;)

MandalorianJF
11-18-2006, 07:29 PM
It's also hightly likely they were just at a hyperspace jump transfer point. It's not like they could just jump into lightspeed as soon as they left Coruscant's orbit and then then drop out again right over Naboo. They would have to plot a course, go to hyperspace, drop out of hyperspace to change course, and so forth and so on.

Like JMAS, when I saw the film, I had imagined they were in the middle of a course change.

It was also a way (setting the scene) for GL to show they weren't on the ground anymore and on their way to Naboo.;)

But why would the ship change course? Can't it just turn to Naboo and fly in a strait line.

Master Magnus
11-19-2006, 08:51 AM
But why would the ship change course? Can't it just turn to Naboo and fly in a strait line.
Yes, but we don't know where the ship was. All we know was that it was close to a star, so it most likely was in a star system and it could've picked up or dropped off passengers. Also, the screenplay implies that the ship jumped to hyperspace right after that scene.

MandalorianJF
11-19-2006, 02:23 PM
Yes, but we don't know where the ship was. All we know was that it was close to a star, so it most likely was in a star system and it could've picked up or dropped off passengers. Also, the screenplay implies that the ship jumped to hyperspace right after that scene.

How do you know that the ship was close to a star? I mean the way I see it, the ship was in open space with nothing around it.

Master Magnus
11-19-2006, 02:39 PM
How do you know that the ship was close to a star? I mean the way I see it, the ship was in open space with nothing around it.
Because we see the transport passing a not too distant star in the establishing shot of the freighter traveling through space. It's not inconceivable that the star is either Coruscant's sun or a sun of another star system where the freighter picked up and/or dropped people off. In any case, this isn't something we know for sure and no-one can answer it either. The real-world explanation is what I posted yesterday: George Lucas wanted to preserve the hyperspace effect for the original movies.

JMAS
11-21-2006, 07:29 PM
But why would the ship change course? Can't it just turn to Naboo and fly in a strait line.

Actually, no, it can't. There are countless star systems between Coruscant and Naboo. To quote Han Solo solo:

"Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?"

There are hyperspace routes mapped out through safe spacelanes that are free of anything blocking the way (like a star or supernova). And along those hyperspace routes are jump off points to lesser hyperspace routes. A ship has to come out of hyperspace at any jump of point to change course.

MandalorianJF
11-21-2006, 07:45 PM
Actually, no, it can't. There are countless star systems between Coruscant and Naboo. To quote Han Solo solo:

"Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?"

There are hyperspace routes mapped out through safe spacelanes that are free of anything blocking the way (like a star or supernova). And along those hyperspace routes are jump off points to lesser hyperspace routes. A ship has to come out of hyperspace at any jump of point to change course.

Whot's supernova?

JMAS
11-21-2006, 08:20 PM
Whot's supernova?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova

"A supernova (pl. supernovae) is a stellar explosion which produces an extremely bright object made of plasma that declines to invisibility over weeks or months."

MandalorianJF
11-21-2006, 11:19 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova

"A supernova (pl. supernovae) is a stellar explosion which produces an extremely bright object made of plasma that declines to invisibility over weeks or months."

So it like melts everything?

thepepgal
11-22-2006, 07:38 AM
But why would the ship change course? Can't it just turn to Naboo and fly in a strait line.

I watched the scene again with a friend, he picked up that if you look at the bottom of the screen and slow the film down, there is the bright light of a star. When I did this I saw it. It is when the ship is at it's largest in the screen.

Therefore the ship is currently in a gravity well of the star and not in hyperspace. So once past this star, it will probably make the jump to hyperspace.

JMAS
11-22-2006, 09:59 PM
So it like melts everything?

Basically, yes. A supernova typically will create a shockwave that would destroy or devastate any planet in it's orbit, and causing a gravitic anomaly.

MandalorianJF
11-23-2006, 01:32 AM
Basically, yes. A supernova typically will create a shockwave that would destroy or devastate any planet in it's orbit, and causing a gravitic anomaly.

OK, thanks for the info.
Now I'm 1 word smarter. LOL