Attack of the Clones: Special Edition

[Teek]

Hey all, as you may or may not know there scenes cut for Ep. II. What I want to know is what footage would you like added in or altered in some way? Was there some incongruity you think should be fixed? For the Episode I DVD release Lucas added more Pod Race footage and more Arrival on Coruscant footage. Was there some missing bit you would like added back in that you saw on the web, in a trailer or in the book? Here's a list of potential scenes:

Padme before the Senate, after the assassination attempt opposing the Military Creation Act.
Extended Zam chase, with the speeder getting a flag draped over one of the engines, Kenobi crawls out to remove it.
The Kenobi/Nu Lost Twenty talk.
Yoda and Mace walking in the Temple at night (one of the selects shows it) They discuss their failure to see it the attack on Amidala and the prophecy coming true.
Mace and Kenobi at the temple, while Kenobi prepares to leave in his starfighter.
Anakin and Padme on Naboo visit Padme's family.
Extended Kenobi/Jango rain fight sequence.
Padme on trial before Dooku on Geonosis.
Plo Koon and Ki-Adi Mundi try to shut down the Battledroids on Geonosis.
Extended Mace/Jango fight sequence.
Extended Obi-Wan/Anakin/Dooku/Yoda duel.

And please keep the "AOTC was lame, they should just change all the dialogue/erase the movie from existance" type comments to yourself. That's for another thread, not this one. If you would like a shot added/altered, please say what the shot is, and why you believe it should be added/changed.

[Ken-OB]

Greetings! Great topic!

I have already mentioed in anEpisode 3 speculation thread that I get so disappointed when important revelations are edited out of the films simply for the purpose of making the movies fit into a time-restraint. No one would have to ask me twice if I'd prefer a three hour film, if need be! Heck, give me a four hour if it tells the story properly!

I would love the Special Edition DVD to include the Lost Twenty discussion and the rest of the dialogue in the library near Dooku's statue/bust.
If I understand correctly, the script was changed a little during the talks about Sifo-Dyas (or Sido-Dyas, as it is sometimes spelled). Perhaps this could be added back in correctly.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that while I'm just like everyone else who would love to see extended fight scenes, I am more inclined to see more footage of the plot points, vital discussion, and important revelations instead. I almost feel like E2 created more questions than answers. While I think this is a good thing to build up to E3, there just seems too much that E3 will have to cover now that there are more mysteries than ever. Maybe leaving some of this footage in E2 would have been helpful.

[Darth Badly]

Originally posted by Teek@May 29 2002 - 12:23
And please keep the "AOTC was lame, they should just change all the dialogue/erase the movie from existance" type comments to yourself. That's for another thread, not this one. If you would like a shot added/altered, please say what the shot is, and why you believe it should be added/changed.
Damn! You foil my every move! :)


Seriously - I agreee with poster number two here. There was ages given to the love story in the middle of the film - probably because of the fact that so much of the future history depends on it that Uncle George was worried that it had to be credible. The film was uneven for me as the love story was played out so slow, but other bits of plot explaination were (I thought) really rushed. And as the last poster said - they've left so much to explain in Episode III - not just all the stuff C3PO's memory, birth of the twins, that we've always known/guessed would be in it but smaller points of plot now left dangling because Clowns didn't covers all its bases.

I wonder how much of what was wrong with the film for me (ie muddled and unclear plot) was because of the final editing. I'd like to see the love story edited down a tad, and any important plot points put back in. Making the running time too much longer would not be good for the film overall, but better a long film you can enjoy (ie Lord of the Rings) than a shorter one you can't.

[Teek]

I've found reading the novelization that the Padme's family scenes, if shot how the novelization describes them, would have worked wonders for the love story in making it more believable. Anakin and Padme have some good interaction there and Padme's views on her thoughts on her future in politics and love make her feelings for Anakin more understandable. I can see why GL cut it out for pacing reasons, but I think he may have hurt the love story in the process. Maybe we can see these scenes as extra footage on the dvd.

[moocat]

Teek - Ultimatly I'd like to see all of it put back, but if I had to pick and choose I'd like to see the following scenes:

Padme's speach after the attempt. It would futher show just how opposed she is to the M.C. Act, and why she risked her life to be there. It would also help show just how deep Jar Jar's mistake is.

The Jocasta Nu explanation, as it would give more insight into Dooku, and what loss it was for the Jedi. Plus the bit where she mentions Qui-Gon adds more layers to the fact that he may have had the potental to one day be corrupted.

Yoda and Mace. Any more information on why they can't foresee things, and the prophecy is welcome.

Mace/Obi-wan discussion as he boards his fighter. I like the fact Obi-Wan was giving voice to his doubts and concerns about Anakin. I think it showed he felt he was in a bit over hes head at times with the boy. *It also shows again the Obi-Wan forsees *potential trouble with Anakin, but the council doesn't listen.

Extended Jango/Obi-Wan fight. Just because it was damn cool, and more is good.

Padme on trial. Another interesting look into Padmes character, because she trys to get Obi-Wan freed but not herself. Also more Dooku being evil is good.

Plo and Ki would have been cool to see but not vital.

More Mace and Jango. Yes please. Jango went down waaaay to quick. I know Mace is one bad Jedi (shut yo mouth), but I would have thought Jango would have been a bit more of a challenge.

Extended end Duels. Oh yeah. Especially the Yoda/Dooku fight. We all know that Dooku used two sabers against Yoda at one *point now let us see it.

Actually I would like to see the Padme home sequence, just because it adds more background to her and where she came from, but ultimatly probably not vital. Still would be nice to see what one of the characters home lives was like.

Ok, I *pretty much named all of them but then I warned of that when I started this. I just hope GL one day gives us the option to insert all the deleted scenes into the movies. I love those options.

I agree with Teek the novelization does wonders for Padmes' motivations. I also would have liked to have seen the entire Anakin conffession scene in the garage. It explains a bit more why Padme doesn't think he's a fruitloop, and still loves him despite what he did.

[Patrick]

Moocat, I think you and I would choose almost exactly the same scenes. *If I had to pick three:

* Padme in the Senate after her assassination attempt. Show her in her "natural habitat" (no, not a Studebaker! :wink: ) and allow her to state her views on the Military Creation Act and give that issue the weight it deserves in the movie. It seems as if without that scene the Military Creation Act (a primary element of the political storyline in this film) is almost relegated to a mention or two in passing. Set it up at the outset of the movie, George... another five minutes isn't gonna kill you.

* Mace and Yoda talking about their failure to forsee the assassination attempt. This is a VITAL bit of exposition, and it puts a lot more of the film into context. Without it, we're merely told later on that the Jedi are losing their power for some mysterious reason. Discussing it in terms of the effects of the rising tide of the Dark Side and the Prophecy crystallizes the point of conflict for the Jedi Council in this movie (and the next one as well) and again, adds a great deal to the story... and its removal deflates the drama of the moment later in the film when Mace asks Yoda if perhaps it was time that they inform the Senate that their powers are fading.

* Jocasta Nu and the story of Dooku and "The Lost Twenty". IMHO Dooku never gets a proper introduction in AOTC. We hear his name a few times and get the sense that he's a bit shady and that he was once a Jedi, but a villain like him (who does not appear on screen until roughly the second hour of the film) needs a better introduction, and the Library scene does this.

All told, this is what... 10-15 minutes of additional footage? IMHO these scenes should DEFINITELY have remained in the film, and certainly are no-brainers to re-incorporate into the DVD version.

[Ken-OB]

Gee Patrick, thank you! You've inadvertantly answered a question I've had about E2, and the way you mentioned it in this last post spells it out for me nicely. I was boggled as to why Mace suggests that the Jedi Council should come forward and admit that their abilities as protectors are a tad unreliable. It made me a bit suspicious at first, but I now see this was because of the Jedi's inability to forsee the assassination attempt (and more, since the Dark Side is clouding their abilities). Cool.

[Ken-OB]

Um, by the way...
I'm not all that up to snuff on messageboard etiquette, as this is really the first time I've actually participated in one (even though I've been using the Web since '96). Should I have given proper introductions before posting anything of value? Did anyone mind my barging into various topics and adding my two-cents worth? Stupid questions, I know, but I'm an idiot, really.

[Vyndim]

I sure hope they were not required Ken-OB. I didn't give any and I've posted lots. If introductions were required before hand, I'm probably in trouble. :D And it looks like a lot of the people knew each other from the previous boards, so introductions weren't really needed.

[Kit Fisto]

Well, everyone's said what's most important. I can't believe George cut some of the stuff that makes the plot more understandable to common people (fans who aren't obsessive!). Things such as the Dooku bust being talked about and Mace and Yoda clairfying their clouded vision would have done wonders for the story. I'm all for putting those scenes back in.

One scene I pray he leaves out is the Extened version of Anakin's telling Padme what he did to the Tuskans. He cut off a bit where Anakin actually says he regrets what he did. Heavens that would be horrible. It's SO perfect the way it is now.

And, of course, any extended fight scenes are welcome! Especialy Mace and Jango, that was too short (of course it kind of was realistic since Jedi versus non-flying bounty hunter should be an easy fight!). I would love to see the Obi/Dooku and Anakin/Dooku fights go on longer. I'd be weary of messing with the Yoda one cause it was so perfect, but I'd be curious to see what else they have (including the Dooku with two sabers part).

But above all, what I hope they fix (but doubt they will) is the bloody Phantom Menace music! ARGH! Why did they use so much of it. Don't get me wrong, it's great music, but they should NEVER NEVER NEVER reuse music, and there was WAY too much of it in the Arena scenes.

Also, John Williams wrote a great bit for the droid factory scene that got cut because Lucas added the THreepio head swap plot that which made the scene a lot longer. What it was replaced by is just about the biggest mess of movie music editing ever. Parts of the proper theme are there, random force theme excerpts, a LOT of the coruscant chase theme, and even YODA's theme from the ending duel. It's just horrific. It didn't ruin the experience of the movie for me at all, but as a big fan of SW music, I'd love to see this repaired more than any other change with the film.

[Winston_Sith]

Originally posted by Teek@May 29 2002 - 12:23
If you would like a shot added/altered, please say what the shot is, and why you believe it should be added/changed.
OK. The entire Senate rotunda erupting into uncontrollable laughter at Representative Binks when he says "...dellow felegates."

I would have LOVED that.

[Lord_Floyd]

I would have like to see Padme's top get a little more ripped.style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

More Dukoo!

More of the Arena scene with the Jedi's fighting. Different angles.

An explanation of Sifo Dyas.

A virtual tour of Courisant. Jedi Temple

[Khayman]

I would defiently like to see all those scenes. I would prefer them to be cut back in (maybe with seemless branching to have both cuts) but woud settle for some beign cut back in and some in delete scenes extras, like the ep 1 disc

[WayoftheGungon]

I would really love to only see the Ki and Plo scene were they go out to the Trade ships and a longer Obi Won and Dooku fight scene. I feel that the Ki and Plo scene was actually pretty vital only because I was at first wondering why they were being pushed into the circle with the rest of the remaining Jedi. First instinct was simply they were the last to be rounded up, but it seemed out of place. Then later I read about the original scene with them trying to knock out the federation ships. I suppose it would be useless to add it in simply because we saw that in Episode I but this time it shows that the droids power up again almost instantly, so it makes the droids more of a threat to me. It also explains Mace and Obi backing up into each other. Its in this scene that Mace tells Obi that Plo and Ki are knocking out the trade ship.
I would like to see more Obi vs. Dooku because there was a horrible edit in there were you can simply tell there is more to the fight. Its in the very beginning of their face off when both are swinging there sabers around wildly then it cuts to a medium shot of Dooku and he is nolonger swinging. I mean you can tell they cut something here. So that really needs to be brushed up. Also now that I think of it more with Obi vs. Jango simply because once again a horrible editing job. Obi is blocking then suddenly it almost jump cuts to him right near Jango swiping at his feet. were's the seen were Ob is walking towards him blocking the shots while spinning? That was cool looking, and lead in nicely to him swiping at Jango's feet before he takes off.
Finally as much as I would love to see more Yoda vs. Dooku the scene was almost perfect. I couldn't see any visible edits were the scene that displayed Dooku using two lightsabers against Yoda. I know that scene exists so I almost wonder if it was an alternative version that they shot. Anyways thats what I want to see.

[Patrick]

I dunno about the whole Ki and Plo scene. It would have looked cool, sure. But how far did the droids have to drag them in order to get them into the arena to be shoved into the circle with the rest of them? IMHO there's a time issue here which would feel weird if this scene had been included.

I just assumed they were fighting up on one of the balconies or somewhere else off to one side and that's why they were shoved into the circle a couple seconds after everyone else was surrounded.

Now, if you want to show the two of them off to one side fighting as a team and cut a few shots of THAT in, I think it'd work. But having them a few miles away sabotaging a TF ship and then suddenly appearing in the Arena... not a good idea IMHO.

[Ken-OB]

Thanks for the heads-up, Vyndim!

[Tovor]

I loved AOTC so I won't say anything about it being lame (that's for my friend Darth Badly to do in another thread *style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif ), but I will say that AOTC (and TPM to a much greater degree) was lessened a small amount by the cutting of the scenes you listed, Teek. *GL likes to create a 2 hour entertainment-experience with a story to pull the viewer forward until the end, but for that matter he doesn't feel the need to include extended aspects of the story that the deeper-than-casual movie goer wants to intellectually digest (such as the Biggs/Luke conversation on Tatooine). *He edits out the meatier bits for pacing reasons, to get the viewer through the 2 hour experience faster, but every single episode suffers due to that. *He tells a story to show a movie, rather than show a movie to tell a story, if that makes sense.

I have not read the novel but I have read the AOTC comic books, which seem to mirror the film's dialogue word for word, so I expect that the unfamiliar dialogue in the comic book not seen and heard in the film, are from the novel or script. *The Senate scene in the beginning of the movie seems vital to the story, as do the other scenes you listed. In addition, in the comic book, the Republic gunships also battled TF droid fighters in the Geonosis air battle......sweet!

My thoughts basically echo those of Ken-OB, Moocat, and Patrick, so I do not have much more to add. *But I would say that I wish not to wait for the DVD and see the cut scenes as seperate inclusions, but rather see them incorporated into the existing film version and watch the movie story as a whole.

**Padme before the Senate, after the assassination attempt opposing the Military Creation Act.**
This is a vital and nesessary part of the story that--especially after the mention of it in the crawl--should not have been left out. We were clued in a couple of years ago that the new epsiode was deeper in political intrigue and nature, but we only see the Senate once and that is extremely limiting of the revelations of how the Republic operates (although it could be said, and some people will, that everything necessary for the political aspects of the story were heard in Palpatine's office.). *In additon, to show Padme in the Senate AFTER the attempted assassination, would lead the viewer to wonder which of the senators shown during her speech had a motive and a means to order the attempt. That would have added a slight bit more mystery and intrigue into the story.

**Extended Zam chase, with the speeder getting a flag draped over one of the engines, Kenobi crawls out to remove it.**
Since I love Coruscant, any further shots of the speeders flying between the buildings would have been sweet. *But this is not needed for the story.

**The Kenobi/Nu Lost Twenty talk.**
This was one of the most intriguing spoilers I had come across over the past year, leading me to wonder if we might see some of those fallen Jedi dueling each other under Sideous' instructions, to kill the others and emerge as the only survivor to earn the title of Apprentice. GL had said that this film would include Sideous' search for a new apprentice to replace Maul. *But beyond that hoped for concept, the Lost 20 talk would have given us more insight into Count Dooku and how vital he was to the Jedi before he left.

**Yoda and Mace walking in the Temple at night (one of the selects shows it) They discuss their failure to see it the attack on Amidala and the prophecy coming true.**
This is one of the most important scenes in the story, I feel, and should not have been left on the cutting room floor. *We still do not know anything about the prophesy or why Qui-Gon believed Anakin was the chosen one; or how the Chosen One was believed to do to bring the balance. Do Yoda and Mace even know? Most of us believe that its the killing of the Sith Master in ROTJ, but the causal viewer is clueless on that.

**Mace and Kenobi at the temple, while Kenobi prepares to leave in his starfighter.**
I do not know what they talked about here, but my guess is that it is as vital as the above.

**Anakin and Padme on Naboo visit Padme's family.**
THis is deeply important to people who want a deeper understanding of the characters and their motives, and this did that in revealing Padme's deeper character via her family. It is also an introduction which would have revealed more of Anakin's longings for his mother, via his meeting of Padme's beloved parents.

**Extended Kenobi/Jango rain fight sequence.**
I like the fight, and a longer one would have been exciting, but not vital to the movie.

**Padme on trial before Dooku on Geonosis.**
This was extremely vital. Before entering the droid plant, Padme told Anakin that as a senator of the Republic she wanted to ease tensions and avoid starting a war (paraphrased). Her coversation with Dooku, and his statement that they were seperate from the Republic and thus an officer of the Republic (Obi-Wan) was a trespasser and a criminal on geonosis, was/is one of the most important political conversations in the movie, IMHO.

**Plo Koon and Ki-Adi Mundi try to shut down the Battledroids on Geonosis.**
Interesting and visually exciting, especially since we saw Anakin render the droid useless in TPM one wonders why it wasn't attempted again.

**Extended Mace/Jango fight sequence.**
Yes, me want more. Rick McCullum always talked about how he loved Jango, how the character had so many tools, weapons, and innovative methods. perhaps an extended final battle between Mace and Jango would have shown us that as well. I wonder if RM cried and stamped his feet in the editing room when GL trimmed Jango's scenes.

**Extended Obi-Wan/Anakin/Dooku/Yoda duel.**
The Yoda part was well done, but exciting only by the surprising aspect of Yoda's energy, but not as much after repeated viewings. To make it longer would have dragged, I think. *In fact, although the lightsaber duels are my favorite part of all the movies, this one came nowhere close to the TPM Qui/Obi/Maul duel in visual fun. Maybe if the Dooku/Anakin and Dooku/Obi duels were longer and not edited so abrubtly, I would have liked them better.

WayoftheGungon:
I would like to see more Obi vs. Dooku because there was a horrible edit in there were you can simply tell there is more to the fight. *Its in the very beginning of their face off when both are swinging there sabers around wildly then it cuts to a medium shot of Dooku and he is nolonger swinging. *I mean you can tell they cut something here. *
Yes, I agree. *The cut was right before Dooku told Obi-Wan that he was dissappointed since Yoda held him in such high regard. That sudden cut and change of Dooku's stance interrupted the flow of the fight scene.

Kit Fisto:
One scene I pray he leaves out is the Extened version of Anakin's telling Padme what he did to the Tuskans. He cut off a bit where Anakin actually says he regrets what he did. Heavens that would be horrible. It's SO perfect the way it is now.
From what Anakin said further in the comic book (in the novel too I expect), he regretted the slaughter because it was not the way of a Jedi Knight, and thus wrong of him to do. My feelings on Vader have changed due to this movie (there is a thread for me to discuss this elsewhere) and I now feel a bit sorry for Anakin and see how his inability to control his feelings lead him to fall under Sideous' seduction. To see him show regret for his actions, actions which we see as the obvious transition from Anakin to Vader, show us how he is being torn apart by his inability to control the tragedies of his life and his resulting emotions. This is like the classic stories of the character being torn and pulled in a tug of war between the path of righteousness and the evil path, and witnessing which side pulls him the most. Showing his regrets would reveal him more as a victim who fell to the dark path by lack of control rather than choosing it due to evil desires. Or something like that.

[TheWookieMonster]

3 years worth of new material to hold me over till the next flick would be really cool. Or at least every bit of extra stuff GL cut from the film.

and

A golden ticket (like in Willy Wonka) where you open the DVD and in a couple of the cases there would be a ticket where you win a spot to be an extra on Epsiode 3. I would buy at least 3 copies of the DVD for a chance.

[Senator Amory]

Hey All,

I would defenatly add probably all of the sceenes from the book, in the movie. I would first and foremost add the sceenes of Anakin and Padme with her family because that is where Padme really starts to realize and admit her true feelings that she has towards Anakin. And I would absolutely add the sceenes of Shmi and the Lars(including Beru) before the Tuskens attacked the homestead.(That gives insight that she had no affiliation with any Sith, because she was so proud of the many things that her son was possibly doing now that he was a Jedi.) And other than these, I would add all the rest. I would have the movie as an (All Sceenes/Un-Cut Edition.)

[Tremaine]

Hmmm... seems I have to read the novel to "see" all the scenes your're all talking about - they sure sound interesting.

My two cents concern bits I would like to see cut from ATOC, rather than added:

Anakins wet dream / "nightmare"-scene.... oh my god, horrible! I hate nightmare-scenes where the character mumbles key-words and wakes in a sweat (see Dune for more such terrible scenes..). It is awful, and doesn't need to be included. It would work just fine with just Padme talking to Anakin about hearing with having his bad dream.

The "fruit-cutting"-scene. Bits of that made me quirm uneasily in my seat. The only good thing in that scene would be the "... aggressive negotiations"-lines.

Alot of the "love-scenes" were unbeleavably cheasy.. but they all seemed to contain important tidbits of information (ie. the bit about Anakin wanting a strong leader). Wish they could be improved...

[Count Dooku]

Why do people complain about Mace, and Jango? Mace is a Jedi Master I do think they should of made it longer.

[darthfool]

Well I hope to see the following turn up in the DVD cut of AOTC:

1. The Mace\Yoda discussion at the start
2. The lost 20 talk
3. Padmé family bit -but without the kids. Please no more kid actors!!!!
4. The headbut (I'm in the UK)
5. Padmé with Anakin behind her talking to Dooku with Jango behind him - made me think of the bit on cload city in Empire where Boba walks out behind Vader.
6. More Yoda V. Dooku.

That's it.

[Justin]

For the Special Edition of Attack of the Clones, I hope they digitally remove Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman, and insert better actors.

[Obidobi]

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Put in all of it. If the shot some scenes that wer not in the film.GIVE IT TO US PLEASE!!!!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko.gif

[JediBendu]

Padme's family scene definitely. Claudia (who plays padme's sister) is a total babe. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/inlove.gif
other than that, the 2hour s of battle scenes I know the animators did just for fun so GL would have a heap to choose from.

[bodhisattva yoda]

i also oppose extending the massacre confession scene... i could sense remorse in anakin without having it blatently spelled out for me. he was obviously trying to justify it to himself by calling them animals and such. also, i'm not too sure about the lost twenty addition... it sounds interesting, but why in the hell wouldn't obi already know what the significance of the statues were...? i'll admit though that i don't know exactly how that scene plays out. all the other deleted scenes sound amazing, however. i hope they were cut due to some technicality like production time limitations or something so that lucas will not hesitate to reincorporate them into the dvd cut. clones did go on for a half an hour beyond every other star wars film, so perhaps lucas is willing to forego time/pacing constraints. does anyone know if the dvd will be released faster than phantom was?

[RollaFett]

As far as I know, it should be out in either October or November.
I think that they should include the "Lost 20" scene. It would clarify Dooku's character a lot more, and make more sense of the scene where Dooku and Obi-Wan have their discussion.

[dexterlennon]

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hope that helps...

[Count Dooku]

I'd add Lost 20, Extended Yoda vs. Dooku, and anything we didn't see in theathers! I would like to watch the Yoda vs. Dooku with extra footage I loved the fight. I would like to learn more about the Lost 20 as well.

[padme_rocks]

I want to see Padme family. Justin I don't think that Portman nor Hayden did a bad acting job! The should keep put as much of it in as GL can!

[Tarkheki- Jedi Dug]

Well, maybe it's becuase i am the die hard SW fan... but id' like to see pretty much EVERYTHING... even down to obi scratchin' his butt while endlessly on guard in some non relevant location at a non relevant time in a non relevant situation....

that, and i would LOVE if they added bloopers or some funny fotage of the actors messin' around.... i love those!

[Joey]

I would like to see all the scenes added. Hayden and Natalie are great actors! :thumbs-up:

[Lonesabre]

Again, I would agree with most that I would LOVE to see every available scene! But, as was the case with such scenes in The Phantom Menace, they may not be totally useful to the story... But then again, WHO CARES!

What I think will happen is the DVD will be released as was The Phantom Menace with already added scenes and deleted scenes. Not until all six films are released on one Ultimate Edition are all OT effects going to be redone and ALL deleted scenes reinstated. When this happens George will not have to worry about A) The length of each episode, because fans will already know what is in store for them, and B) Plotting. For example, the Biggs scene in the OT was not included because he wanted the droids to move the film onto Luke, then Ben and the Han and so on... But now we already know everyhting and meeting Biggs would make no difference.

Thats what I thinks anyway!

[Darth_Combover]

I know this is a Star Wars board. but think back for just a sec. Men in Black. Wil Smith as Agent J on his first assignment, holding a newborn alien. Some how the little newborn looks farmiler. Now flash ahead to AOTC. Jedi Knight Kit Fisto battling along side his fellow Jedi on Geonosis.
Uncanny resemblence?? Or one in the same?


Things that make you go hmmm

[Anakin Solo]

Are what about Padme and Anakin in bed making Luke and leia. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/satisfied.gif

[Barry]

Here is my wish list for the Attack of the Clones DVD:

01. Add the Senate cutscene at the beginning of the movie where Palpatine announces that Senator Amidala has been assassinated and then she appears.
02. Add more scenes of the Coruscant chase.
03. Add the cutscene of Obi-Wan and Anakin's encounter with the bouncer of the night club.
04. Add the cutscene of Obi-Wan talking with the Jedi librarian about Count Dooku.
05. Add the cutscene where Padme witnesses Anakin having a nightmare about his mother aboad the refugee cruiser. Adding this scene will make the scene where Padme says, "You had another nightmare." make more sense.
06. Add more cutscenes between Anakin and Padme including the ones featuring her family on Naboo. This is one major flaw in the theatrical version of Attack of the Clones. Many of the scenes cut would have better developed Anakin and Padme's relationship.
07. Add more scenes of the Obi-Wan/Jango fight on Kamino.
08. Add more scenes featuring the Lars family.
09. Add the cutscene of the massifs attacking Obi-Wan on Geonosis.
10. Eliminate Yoda's Theme that plays during the Droid Factory scene because Yoda is not even in that scene.
11. Add the cutscene of Padme and Anakin meeting Count Dooku. Eliminate lines of dialogue that refer to an alternative capture of Anakin and Padme.
12. Add the cutscene of Padme and Anakin's trial.
13. Add more cut lines to the Love Pledge scene between Anakin and Padme.
14. Add more cut footage to the arena sequence.
15. Add the cutscene where a group of Jedi led by Ki-Adi-Mundi fight there way into a droid control ship to shut down the droids. The droids shut down for a moment then they reactivate.
16. Add the full fight between Mace and Jango in the arena.
17. Add more cut footage to the lightsaber duels with the extra dialogue.
18. Add Jar Jar Binks in the group of leaders witnessing the stormtroopers leaving for battle on Coruscant. Jar Jar should have a sad look on his face after realizing the ramifications of his actions.
19. The necklace that Anakin made for Padme in The Phantom Menace should be added to Padme's neck during the wedding scene.

[Winston_Sith]

Here's one I'm sure he'll add:

He MUST add the scene from the digital theatrical version where Padme actually takes Anakin by his mechanical hand at the wedding.

It's just too awesome, people!

In the regular version all we see is this 3PO-like, metal hand there, just sticking out like a shiny, gold-colored metal thumb, and I must say it's kind of creepy... I think, because there's like no real frame of reference for this in our minds; and it looks like it was maybe an afterthought on GL's part (though, NO WAY)... and not half as dramatic, anyway.

[bodhisattva yoda]

does anyone by any chance know of any of the reasons as to why george cut these scenes i've been hearing so much about? was it simply to trim the film down from three hours or whatever it would've ended up being? i did see an interview with a film director (i forget his name) who said that movies (theatrical releases) over two and a half hours will surely be less profitable... maybe, since this doesn't really apply for video/dvd, george will deliver. you think?

[RollaFett]

bodhisattva yoda- The length of a movie directly correalates to the profitabilty of a movie 9 times out of 10. I'm just stating my opinion here, but I'm pretty sure of it. So most big blockbusters usually clock in around the 100-120 minute mark. You do have rare exceptions, however, look at "Titantic". That was about 3 hours and it's the #1 movie of all time, and it probably had a lot of cut scenes as well.
Another factor to consider for the cut scenes of AOTC is this that the other movies in the SW saga are all around a little over 2 hour mark. AOTC falls right right in line with the rest of them.
All of that said, there seems to be way too many important scenes cut from the movie that shouldn't have been. TPM had a lot of cut scenes, but upon viewing them, I saw that they really didn't matter too much. Now, I havn't seen the cut scenes from AOTC, but from what I have read, it appears as though GL may have made an error in the cutting room. This movie had so much to tell, plot-wise, that it could ill-afford to have so many crucial scenes just cast aside for the sake of filling a timeframe.
Let's face it, GL does have a guanteed audience with SW, so if he were to make one a little longer that the others, i don't believe that people would stay away for that reason.

[JediBendu]

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[James]

Great Barry!!

Those are all wonderful ideas!! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif