Indecision 2006

[Justin]

Well this was/is one interesting election. It looks like whether or not the Democrats gain control of the Senate will be decided here in Virginia, something I (and most assuredly, many others) didn't expect.

There may be a long and arduous recount if Webb isn't able to expand his lead over Allen by more than a percentage point. Unbelievable.

What are your thoughts?

[DblDwn]

Steve Largent was a successful WR so I could see him being successful in politics. Tom Osbourne was a successful college coach so I could see him being successful in politics. But I am skeptical of Heath Shuler, who was an overrated QB and monumental bust in the NFL, being elected by the good people of North Carolina. Best of luck with that.

He'll probably end up getting elected President in 2016.

All in all I'm not too surprised. Common sense was that the Democrats would retake the House, which they did, and that they would retake the Senate, which they still may do. After 2000 in Florida I'm skeptical of recounts, as everyone should be (my opinion and obviously not everyones), but heres to hoping that Virginia gets it right.

I need to pull up a results page and monitor the progress throughout the day.

[Cydon]

Sadly, yes.

[Darth Massacrus]

I'm from Maryland, and voted absentee for the first time in my life. And all I can say is the following: what a waste. I look up the election results this morning, and 66% of those I voted for do not get elected. There was a key Senate race in which I voted for Lt. Gov. Micheal Steele, the Republican Senate candidate, was defeated, as was incumbent Gov. Bob Ehrlich. Personally, I think both had done a good job in office, and I was fairly certain they would be victorious. Where I'm currently at, the incumbent Senator, Robert Byrd, was re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reelected, and I am happy to see that, as he and Senators McCain, Hagel, and Leberman are probably the best Senators currently in office. When I heard that Donald Rumsfeld resigned, I was disappointed, but I can understand if he does not want to have to put up with what is certain to be more partisan bickering that the Democratic victories will bring about. As Defense Secretary, I think Rumsfeld was a capable, experienced, competent leader who did well for his nation. I only wonder who will succeed him...

[DblDwn]

The "waste" isn't voting and having your candidate lose. The real "waste" is not voting because you don't think that your vote will make a difference. Great job on voting absentee.

[STar war spUNK]

well i did not vote b/c i forgot i was 18!!! (i turned 18 earlier this year)

i know a lot of my friends did not vote though b/c when you are in college, i guess you tend to forget things, i.e. register. i believe that there might have been some difference if a lot more college students had voted.

[techno-union]

Different which way? I would have thought on the whole, college students would lean toward the democrats.

[JediKeri]

Kansas was just as disapointing. The really disapointing part was the AG race. Kline miscalculated big time and it came back and bit him.

[Master Cephus]

Different which way? I would have thought on the whole, college students would lean toward the democrats."If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." - Winston Churchill (though disputed that he never said this)

[JediKeri]

Sounds too modern...I doubt he did.

[Sargoth]

"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." - Winston Churchill (though disputed that he never said this)


As much as I like this quote, You've got to remember that the definitions of "Liberal" and "Conservative" in Europe are quite different than ours. When Europeans look at our parties, they don't see "Liberal" and "Conservative", they see "Conservative" and "REALLY Conservative". :)

[techno-union]

As much as I like this quote, You've got to remember that the definitions of "Liberal" and "Conservative" in Europe are quite different than ours. When Europeans look at our parties, they don't see "Liberal" and "Conservative", they see "Conservative" and "REALLY Conservative". :)


And just to make things confusing, in Australia the conservatives call themselves the Liberal Party.

[Sam]

Well this was/is one interesting election. It looks like whether or not the Democrats gain control of the Senate will be decided here in Virginia, something I (and most assuredly, many others) didn't expect.

There may be a long and arduous recount if Webb isn't able to expand his lead over Allen by more than a percentage point. Unbelievable.

What are your thoughts?

I'm telling people in my area (Northern Virginia) that this is why voting is important. This time, the deciding votes came from right were I'm living.

I work with a lot of Asian-Indian Americans, and history may reveal that control of the US Senate ultimately came down to one word, "Macaca." There were more than enough Asian Indians in NVA, offended by Allen's racial epithet, to give Webb his margin of victory.

[kopernikuz]

Forgive my not knowing... but can you explain "Asian-Indian"?

[DblDwn]

That's what I was going to ask. Is that the new PC term for people from India who have immigrated to America or have the Asians and Indians, as in Cherokee, been pro-creating over the years?

[JackBauer24]

I didn't vote this time around. Mainly because I didn't know all that much about the issues being debated and I feel that it's worse to make an uninformed vote than to not vote at all. The only part of the election I knew anything about was the MI governor's race and I honestly couldn't care less about who won that one. Either way, nothing would change in this state.

[JediKeri]

I voted because there were some in office that I didn't like. Like Gov. Sebelius. Didn't do any good because she's still in office.

[Sam]

That's what I was going to ask. Is that the new PC term for people from India who have immigrated to America or have the Asians and Indians, as in Cherokee, been pro-creating over the years?

That sounds like a comment from an Allen supporter. FYI, Asian Indian is an official ethnic classification used by the US Government, and also state and local governments, on applications for minority-owned businesses.

[James]

Yeah...being published by the government which is dominated by the politcally-correct politicians. Just because the government publishes it doesn't mean it's entirely PC-free.

[JediKeri]

Polical Correctness at times can be a major cop-out too...

[DblDwn]

That sounds like a comment from an Allen supporter. FYI, Asian Indian is an official ethnic classification used by the US Government, and also state and local governments, on applications for minority-owned businesses.

I don't live in Virginia, or remotely close to Virginia so I have no clue who Allen is let alone do I support him, and that still doesn't answer the question.

Also, I agree with James and JK.

[Sam]

^ Fortunately for the country, the voters in this election rejected the anti-PC agenda that you, James and JK are pushing here.

[kopernikuz]

That sounds like a comment from an Allen supporter. FYI, Asian Indian is an official ethnic classification used by the US Government, and also state and local governments, on applications for minority-owned businesses.
OKay... and it's a classification for who? That's what we're not clear on. I'm just trying to understand the context of the post and since I don't know the situation there, it would make more sense with more clarification.

[James]

Um....since when were we pushing any agenda? But I'll tell you this now Sam, I hate political correctness! It's just a dumb way for interfering, nosey old do-gooders to colour up their language, and hide the real meaning of their words.

For an example of how stupid PC is, take a look here (I won't post the article or we'll go off-topic, if you take issue with it Sam, PM me and we can debate about it that way): http://atsquish.blogspot.com/2005/12/i-hate-political-correctness.html

[DblDwn]

^ Fortunately for the country, the voters in this election rejected the anti-PC agenda that you, James and JK are pushing here.

I know that I have a tendency to start some $hit with people but that was the last thing I was trying to do here. As Kop said we are simply attempting to get a definition of the terminology as to what ethnic group is being discussed. If that is wrong then excuse me.

And, for the record, political correctness is a crock. As was stated before it is a way to be condescending and sarcastic without having to do so directly. I forget when we decided that it was a problem to risk hurting anyone's feelings. It's funny that we, as a society, get more and more selfish and egotistical every day yet we still pretend that we actually care if we offend anyone or not. This is what frivilous(sp) lawsuits, road rage, school shootings and bruised egos have created for us. A society where 90% of what we say is fake because, heaven forbid, someone should get what they deserve and have the truth spoken. But no one wants to hear truth anymore because what we really want to say most of the time is no longer "PC" enough for general conversation. In that sense we have all become nothing more than liars and used car salesman.

Of course, that's just my opinion (notice I have to say that to be PC to let everyone know that I'm not trying to speak for the masses).

[James]

Excellent point DblDwn. You put what I was trying to express into words.

[DblDwn]

Thank you my friend.

[Sargoth]

That's what I was going to ask. Is that the new PC term for people from India who have immigrated to America or have the Asians and Indians, as in Cherokee, been pro-creating over the years?

Yes, it is to distinguish between an Asian Indian (Someone from India) from an American Indian. Working in the IT industry in Arizona, you shouldn't be surprised at how often this distinction needs to be made in conversation... Stupid Columbus!

[James]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not an American - I thought the latest term for Indians as in Cherokee was like native Americans or something to that effect...

[DblDwn]

I would imagine that someone finally realized that the term "Native American," by definition, means literally that the Indians were here before anyone came from the East and "discovered" the West. By continuing to call them "Native Americans" would not be very PC considering it's a slap in the face to them that, even though they were here first, we marched in, claimed their land as our own and dumped them on reservations. That's the type of thing that you would want the general public to forget about.

[JediKeri]

^ Fortunately for the country, the voters in this election rejected the anti-PC agenda that you, James and JK are pushing here.


Issue?? There was no pushing of an issue.

Hello, I was making a comment that I very much belive to be true. I vote my conscience in every election(and if you don't like that tough). I won't get into issues I voted for or against because it'll be off topic. But I would rather people speak what them mean instead of policital correctness because to me PC is double speak. And I hate that.

All that aside, none of the poeple I voted for won, but hey there's 2008 so...:tease:

[James]

Don't worry JK, Sam tends to do that. I've learnt not ever to mention political correctness, feminist-communists, and the death of Padme where he hangs around

[JediKeri]

That's ok...my parents were giving me flak for voteing primarily republican this year...

[Sargoth]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not an American - I thought the latest term for Indians as in Cherokee was like native Americans or something to that effect...

Yes, 'Native American' is in common use. However, the term 'Indian' is still used freely, even by the tribes themselves.

[Sam]

I know that I have a tendency to start some $hit with people but that was the last thing I was trying to do here. As Kop said we are simply attempting to get a definition of the terminology as to what ethnic group is being discussed. If that is wrong then excuse me.

And, for the record, political correctness is a crock. As was stated before it is a way to be condescending and sarcastic without having to do so directly. I forget when we decided that it was a problem to risk hurting anyone's feelings. It's funny that we, as a society, get more and more selfish and egotistical every day yet we still pretend that we actually care if we offend anyone or not. This is what frivilous(sp) lawsuits, road rage, school shootings and bruised egos have created for us. A society where 90% of what we say is fake because, heaven forbid, someone should get what they deserve and have the truth spoken. But no one wants to hear truth anymore because what we really want to say most of the time is no longer "PC" enough for general conversation. In that sense we have all become nothing more than liars and used car salesman.

Of course, that's just my opinion (notice I have to say that to be PC to let everyone know that I'm not trying to speak for the masses).

"Get what they deserve"? "the truth?" Just who do you believe needs to get what they deserve, and just what do you think is the truth? Reading between the lines of your tirade, I imagine it's something like what Mel Gibson blurted out in his drunken anti-semitic meltdown, or Michael Richards in his racist blowup, or Trent Lott at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday party, or George Allen's "Macaca" moment.

Regarding George Allen, although nationally the main issues in the election were the war in Iraq and the Republican scandals, the race that ultimately decided control of the Senate turned on the name that Allen called a young man of Asian Indian descent. Allen went on to tell the man sarcastically, "Welcome to America," apparently not knowing that the man was in fact born here. And the man hadn't been doing anything to Allen but filming his rally for the rival Webb campaign.

Allen had been comfortably ahead of Webb prior to that. Suddenly, afterwards, the race became competetive, and Webb won an upset victory by the narrowest margin of any of the Senate contests. Analysts noted that what tipped the balance of power in the state was the Northern Virginia suburbs going more heavily Democratic, vs the rest of the state, than in past elections. And guess what. There's a very large Asian Indian community in Northern Virginia, which didn't like their Senator calling them a word that means "monkey."

That should be a lesson to you. The Republicans, wherein most of the anti-PC sentiment lies, lost control of the Senate because one of their rising stars (he was widely expected to run for President in 2008) said something really, really rude and sarcastic to a man because of his ethnicity.

Have you figured out yet what Asian Indian means?

To me, PC means polite conversation. It means not making rude, sarcastic, racially or sexually-charged remarks against people becuase of their status. It means not bashing someone because of their religion or lack thereof. It means not comparing feminists to Communists (as James did some months ago in a way that reminded me of hate-radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh's infamous "Feminazis" remark). And it means not making bad jokes about Asians cross-breeding with Cherokees.

Here's a link to a recent Washington Post column that relates to all this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/21/AR2006112101221_pf.html

[James]

Some feminists are communists. Stop being such a PC-obsessed prat.

[DblDwn]

"Get what they deserve"? "the truth?" Just who do you believe needs to get what they deserve, and just what do you think is the truth?

On the contrary I was simply stating that people deserve to hear the truth. If I'm speaking with someone I would like them to feel as if they can speak freely and openly concerning their beliefs and their opinions. We spend too much time trying to be PC and sugar coating things because we're so afraid of offending the next person but clearly could care less about them anyway.

Reading between the lines of your tirade, I imagine it's something like what Mel Gibson blurted out in his drunken anti-semitic meltdown, or Michael Richards in his racist blowup, or Trent Lott at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday party, or George Allen's "Macaca" moment.

When we are children we "imagine" that there is a Santa Claus and an Easter Bunny and a Tooth Fairy and such so there's how far imagining gets you.

Regarding the question, if that is their true opinions then so be it. I don't agree with it, and I certainly don't condone that belief, but I have more respect for the person that isn't afaid to speak their mind as opposed to the person who represses that belief because they don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. But let's use Hollywood as the example here. I love it when two actors are working together, that the public knows do not really like each other, and when doing promotions for the movie, and when asked how they liked working with said person, they lie through their teeth and say that it was a great experience and that they had a lot of fun. Whatever.

That's why I'm such a big fan of Howard Stern. Take away all the strippers, pornstars, midgets, the "Wack Pack" and everything else and what do you have? A man who tells you exactly what he thinks without concern over consequences and repercusions. He'll alientate his entire audience if something is bothering him. Whether you agree with a thing he does or not is beside the point. That man has built an empire out of telling the truth and not worrying about being PC.

To me, PC means polite conversation.

Closer to Phake Conversation but you have your opinion and I have mine.

It means not making rude, sarcastic, racially or sexually-charged remarks against people becuase of their status. It means not bashing someone because of their religion or lack thereof. It means not comparing feminists to Communists (as James did some months ago in a way that reminded me of hate-radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh's infamous "Feminazis" remark).

See now you're implying that without being PC, then people would be all of the things you have just stated. So you agree that being PC is being fake then? It's ok. The rest of us already know. Welcome. You're jacket is in the mail.

And it means not making bad jokes about Asians cross-breeding with Cherokees.

Apparently the joke was on you because I was asking a serious question. A couple of us were wondering what the definition was so I simply laid out the two possible scenarios. But you didn't notice that I maintained PC verbage and asked in a polite way. All you noticed was that I asked a question you apparently were uncomfortable with.

So are you Asian? Are you Indian? Or are you an Asian-Indian? As worked up as you are getting over nothing you must be one or the other.

Try switching to decaf, or Sanka. :bye:

[James]

^I usually find a Coke Zero does the trick ;)

Anyway political correctness is a load of nonsense, and it is more of a hindrance in a debate or discourse becuase it doesn't hide the word's true meaning (as it purports to do) but puts forward a pre-determined meaning or ideology.

[Sam]

Regarding the question, if that is their true opinions then so be it. I don't agree with it, and I certainly don't condone that belief, but I have more respect for the person that isn't afaid to speak their mind as opposed to the person who represses that belief because they don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

There are some types of beliefs, such as racial and religious hatred, that I don't respect, whether they're expressed openly or hidden.



See now you're implying that without being PC, then people would be all of the things you have just stated. So you agree that being PC is being fake then? It's ok. The rest of us already know. Welcome. You're jacket is in the mail.

Wrong. The number of people who would be the things I've stated are relatively small, but encouraging them to unleash their hate-speech upon the country and the world would be reckless and destructive. The cultural effect would not be unlike yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.


Apparently the joke was on you because I was asking a serious question. A couple of us were wondering what the definition was so I simply laid out the two possible scenarios. But you didn't notice that I maintained PC verbage and asked in a polite way. All you noticed was that I asked a question you apparently were uncomfortable with.

So are you Asian? Are you Indian? Or are you an Asian-Indian? As worked up as you are getting over nothing you must be one or the other.

No, the joke is on yourself. I'm a half-Jewish, White American. I just happen to know a lot of Asian-Indian Americans. And I tell them they can be proud that their response at the polls, to George Allen going very un-PC, gave Jim Webb his margin of victory and Democrats control of the Senate. They would likely have done the same, had Allen made an ignorant, bigoted-sounding remark about Asians cross-breeding with Cherokees.

I should not be having to explain this to someone whose posts indicate they're located at Camp David. It's very simple. India is located on a subcontinent that's part of Asia. To distinguish them from American Indians (aka Native Americans), people from India and their descendents have had their ethicity designated as Asian-Indian.
:bye:

[Master Cephus]

I should not be having to explain this to someone whose posts indicate they're located at Camp David. It's very simple. India is located on a subcontinent that's part of Asia. To distinguish them from American Indians (aka Native Americans), people from India and their descendents have had their ethicity designated as Asian-Indian.It's good that we have all these categories to place people in. Caucasion, African-American, Asian-Indian, etc. At least people know their classification.

Here I was thinking we were all people.....It's a good thing we're PC. It brings us together, not divide us....

[James]

ho-hum.......

to expound on what i said before (sorry i was in a rush and it wasn't as detailed as it could be), all this silly new language developed in the 1970s kills debate or an original though with confusion and obfuscation, to push forward pre-determined ideologies. Politically correct language such as "alternatively abled" meaning disabled and gender neutral words such as "chairperson" instead of chairman or a ridiculous one I heard the other day, "maintenance cover" instead of manhole, has found a cosy home in university arts and humanities faculties because it couches these words, making them seem like new ideas when they are really old ones rehashed by people trying to give them new meaning.

There is nothing unsophisticated, insensitive, or unkind about discussing a subject in plain English.

And for the record, Sam, I definitely do not endorse racial hatred. In a country like New Zealand where I live, where there is a real melting pot of various ethnicities in large cities like Auckland, you see the battlelines drawn all the time. And I can tell you, as far as racial problems are concerned, New Zealand is a pretty screwed up country.

And stop talking down to us, as if we know nothing.

[DblDwn]

There are some types of beliefs, such as racial and religious hatred, that I don't respect, whether they're expressed openly or hidden.

So you're saying that people have the right to their own opinions just as long as you agree with them? Ok. That's a bit egocentric but too each is own.

Wrong. The number of people who would be the things I've stated are relatively small, but encouraging them to unleash their hate-speech upon the country and the world would be reckless and destructive. The cultural effect would not be unlike yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.See but we have this little thing called the First Ammendment. It states clearly that we have the right to free speech. It also states that said freedom of speech does not apply to certain aspects of speech such as, but not limited to, yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. The thing I'm trying to remember, just because this is now the most inane discussion ever, is how did we come to this? Oh yeah. That's right. A couple of us asked for clarification on something and you decided to have a conniption.

No, the joke is on yourself.I'm sorry did I miss where this was a battle of the comics?

I'm a half-Jewish, White American.See and here I thought we were all just people. Human beings. Why do you feel the need to use terms like "Asian-Indian" or "White American?" What's wrong with human being or American? Why is it that people feel the need to classify race when speaking of an American?

They would likely have done the same, had Allen made an ignorant, bigoted-sounding remark about Asians cross-breeding with Cherokees.Well, for starters, if you're going to throw a tantrum about my simple question at least quote it right. I asked if Asians and Indians, and used Cherokee as an example of the classification of Indian I was referring to, were pro-creating. That means making babies. I didn't ask if they were "cross-breeding" to make it sound like Asians and Native Americans are dogs or some other form of animal. You clearly have a chip on your shoulder and are using me as the target for your anger. Get over it because I'm far from your problem.

I should not be having to explain this to someone whose posts indicate they're located at Camp David.Now you see there. That's where you messed up. When you look back at this thread this was the comment that showed your true lack of comprehension. You see, because if you bothered to read any of the other threads that revolve around politics you would know that I am about as far from a Bush supporter as one can get. You would know that if you paid attention that, next to my Bush Avatar, it says "I'm probably lying." The reason my location is listed as Camp David is because my name is David. Ironic coming from someone who had the audacity to call me ignorant.

It's very simple. India is located on a subcontinent that's part of Asia.Thank you Professor. I didn't know that because I've never seen a map before.

To distinguish them from American Indians (aka Native Americans), people from India and their descendents have had their ethicity designated as Asian-Indian. Now was that so hard? That was precisely the answer we were looking for. Thank you for providing us with that which we sought.

[kopernikuz]

They would likely have done the same, had Allen made an ignorant, bigoted-sounding remark about Asians cross-breeding with Cherokees.
Wait a minute... who's bigoted? "Cross-breeding"? Do you have a problem with people of different ethnicities mating that you refer to it as though we're creating a dog hybrid for a kennel club show?

His question was not bigoted at all. You cause the problems when you take an innocent question where someone is trying to educate themselves and turn it into a racially charged tirade. You used Asian-Indian... which I had never heard of either... any logical person knows that Indian can be used to describe someone from India, as well as someone descended from the indigineous people in the Americas, ie) Cherokee or Sioux, etc... whether it's correct or not. Asian as we all know is used commonly to describe people of Korean, Japanese, Chinese etc... even though that may also be limiting as there are other obviously countries in Asia.

But it's not bigoted or unnatural to come to the conclusion "Asian" meant Chinese/Japanese or the like... while Indian meant "Native American". Hence the reason we politely asked for clarification so that we did not make the wrong assumption.

It's pretty sad (and remarkably telling about our racially charged "oh"ffended nation) that instead of helping us understand, you accused us of something wholly incorrect and untrue... when all we were trying to do was understand. I wonder why more people don't embrace PC? :rolleyes:

Finally after pages of ridiculous arguing... you finally explain, as DD pointed out. All of this could have been avoided had this sentence been your sole reply to the innocent question:

To distinguish them from American Indians (aka Native Americans), people from India and their descendents have had their ethicity designated as Asian-Indian.
Makes perfect sense to me. DD and I would nod understandingly, thank you for explaining, and move on. But no. It had to devolve into suffering.

[Krogenar]

There are some types of beliefs, such as racial and religious hatred, that I don't respect, whether they're expressed openly or hidden.

Fair enough, but as I see it, to be a good American you need to be willing to protect the right of others to put forward their views, no matter how odious it might be to you. We must realize that we can only protect our own right to speak by protecting the other's guy's right to also speak.

Polictical Correctness is essentially a list of words and ideas that you're not allowed to talk about, and as such, is patently un-American. PC Cops exist to point out Oh!-fenders and then stop any discussion or debate that the restricted words may have caused. But human interaction has policing methods already hard-wired into them -- human stupidity. When someone says something obviously stupid (Michael Edwards' recent rant using the word '******' is a prime example) people realize it's already stupid. We don't need laws for language, unless the language is patently threatening ("Kill that [insert personal noun here]!").

Wrong. The number of people who would be the things I've stated are relatively small, but encouraging them to unleash their hate-speech upon the country and the world would be reckless and destructive. The cultural effect would not be unlike yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

I disagree. Let stupid people speak their stupid views loud and clear. "Let Truth and Falsehood grapple, who would believe Truth to be the loser?" as Mills said. Not long after the invention of the first printing press, a British King started instituting printing licensing on the grounds you just used -- people, if allowed to publish anything they wished might print falsehoods! We can't have that!

Yes, we can have that, in fact, we must have it. How else can people know the 'Truth' if someone is allowed to decide beforehand what it is? Ideas need to clash, not be censored.

No, the joke is on yourself. I'm a half-Jewish, White American. I just happen to know a lot of Asian-Indian Americans.

Just for the record, I love it when people say, "I know a lot of [insert minority group]." As though that makes a whit of difference. It's like a disclaimer: "What I'm about to say might upset someone, somewhere ... so just for the record, I hug a lot of those 'kinds' of people on a fairly regular basis."

Pfft. Just say what you have to say.

I should not be having to explain this to someone whose posts indicate they're located at Camp David. It's very simple. India is located on a subcontinent that's part of Asia. To distinguish them from American Indians (aka Native Americans), people from India and their descendents have had their ethicity designated as Asian-Indian.
:bye:

I have a lot of Indian friends (from the Asian subcontinent) and when they call me a potato-eatin' cracka honky, I just call them 'Red Dot Specials' and we all howl with laughter.

;)

[James]

"Get what they deserve"? "the truth?" Just who do you believe needs to get what they deserve, and just what do you think is the truth?

And who are you to tell us what is "truth"?

Reading between the lines of your tirade, I imagine it's something like what Mel Gibson blurted out in his drunken anti-semitic meltdown, or Michael Richards in his racist blowup, or Trent Lott at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday party, or George Allen's "Macaca" moment.No one had written a tirade, Sam. They were defending themselves because the moment Kope and DblDwn asked what Asian Indian meant you spat the dummy and got all defensive.


Have you figured out yet what Asian Indian means? We asked you quite politely, why don't you enlighten us?

To me, PC means polite conversation. It means not making rude, sarcastic, racially or sexually-charged remarks against people becuase of their status. It means not bashing someone because of their religion or lack thereof. It means not comparing feminists to Communists (as James did some months ago in a way that reminded me of hate-radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh's infamous "Feminazis" remark). And it means not making bad jokes about Asians cross-breeding with Cherokees.polite conversation...... haha!!! more like convo for the weak and those with delusions of persecution.

[DblDwn]

It seems to me that the real indecision of 2006 has become Sam trying to decide whether or not he should bother taking his foot out of his mouth long enough to respond. :tease:

:xmas: :xmas: :xmas:

[JediKeri]

It seems to me that the real indecision of 2006 has become Sam trying to decide whether or not he should bother taking his foot out of his mouth long enough to respond. :tease:




You mean he didn't eat it already?:nahnah:

Yes, I'm pretty sure what Asian-Indians are, but I'm waiting to see if you really know Sam. Or are you blowing hot air?

[James]

:crazy: :lurk:

[James]

Sam, are you out there?

[JediKeri]

Did I scare him off?

[James]

May be... :evil:

[JediKeri]

I should not be having to explain this to someone whose posts indicate they're located at Camp David. It's very simple. India is located on a subcontinent that's part of Asia. To distinguish them from American Indians (aka Native Americans), people from India and their descendents have had their ethicity designated as Asian-Indian.


Then why challenge us to begin with? And also your getting worked up over nothing. Take a pill and chill a bit.

[Tovor]

Got water?

[James]

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