Does the Original Trilogy constitute great filmmaking? [Archive]

Braden Dar

05-01-2006, 10:57 PM

Yes it is great filmmaking. GL and his crews did things that had never been done before, and not just the special effects. But what he did by painstakingly putting the films together (mostly I speak of A New Hope) showed the world something entirely new. So many other movies featuring space and the "future" or just sci-fi in general had a "too clean and tidy" appearance. GL wanted it to be something that looked as though it had been there for years and thats exactly what he achieved.
While some of the hairstyles and such did appear too 70's, the film for the most part stood in a time all its own. His commitment to not use the music of the day was, in itself, a great move. Without such insight, I feel the film would have only lasted a few years instead of the decades it has endured.
The story line was actually rather simple from the base plot perspective. A real line between good and evil and a definition of the good guys and the bad guys was as basic as you could get. And the development of the story into the sci-fi adventure it is was surely a difficult journey in writing.
We could sit back now and write all manner of fanfic with what GL spent himself so deeply upon. He put in such effort and created a masterpiece. I can still (as many of you likely will atest to as well) sit on my couch and watch the Original Trilogy unfold. I like to see if I can spot something new most every time I watch it again. Where each XWing is in a space battle, where Luke's lightsaber is from one scene to the next. When the lightsaber effects tell you it switched on or off but the screen shows us the opposite. I love every minute of it.
It is great film making.

Bandersnatch

05-02-2006, 08:18 AM

As big a fan of all 6 Star Wars movies, I still have to answer "no."

Lucas is a great filmmaker, and Star Wars is a whole lot of fun and I love it to death, but I have a hard time calling it great filmmaking.

THX-1138 is great filmmaking. American Graffitti is great filmmaking. Gosford Park, The Aviator, Barry Lyndon and Citizen Kane are great filmmaking.

Mothman

05-02-2006, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Bandersnatch@May 2 2006, 05:18 AM
As big a fan of all 6 Star Wars movies, I still have to answer "no."

Lucas is a great filmmaker, and Star Wars is a whole lot of fun and I love it to death, but I have a hard time calling it great filmmaking.

THX-1138 is great filmmaking. American Graffitti is great filmmaking. Gosford Park, The Aviator, Barry Lyndon and Citizen Kane are great filmmaking.
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Could you expand on how you define "THX 1138" or "American Graffiti" as great filmmaking? And, how "Star Wars" (the original Ep. IV ANH before it was called that) is not? Thanks!

James

05-02-2006, 05:51 PM

Great classic films. No need to debate on it. Period.

bluemilk

05-02-2006, 06:29 PM

the Original Trilogy was great filmmaking for it's genre. George Lucas revolutionized the film industry. Prior to Star Wars, movie studios had been in a slump and audience numbers were dwindling. There were many factors for this including both political and economic such as the vietnam war ending. However, there were artistic reasons as well and the movie studios just weren't creating the excitment of the "silver screen" days and frankly, most couldn't afford to; the studio system was in collapse.

Now George Lucas comes in and creates a Sci-Fi movie that no one had seem before. Yes it had robots and diabolical evil-doers but the art of Ralph McQuarrie and the FX inventions by the crew working on Star Wars were revolutionary. No more cheesy cardboard robots that spoke in a weird binary gurgle or spaceships flying where you could see the strings attached.

One could go one rambling about the specifics of what George Lucas did but in my opinion, I'll tell you why the OT is great filmmaking; because George Lucas ignited the imaginations of not only his fans, but his contemporaries; Ridley Scott, Stephen Spielberg, Peter Jackson and James Cameron, to name a few. Without Star Wars, the sci-fi/fantasy genre we know today probably wouldn't have advanced as quickly as it did. Thank Star Wars for that.

James

05-02-2006, 09:14 PM

I agree with you bluey.

In any case SW is much better than 2001 Space Odyssey. God that was bad.

Jack Spencer Jr

05-02-2006, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by James@May 2 2006, 08:14 PM
In any case SW is much better than 2001 Space Odyssey. God that was bad.
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On a side note, if you ever wish to gain an appreciation of 2001, I recommend going here. (http://www.kubrick2001.com/) Now, this won't help you like the movie any better, but you will gain an understanding of what the heck it's all supposed to mean.

James

05-03-2006, 02:19 AM

SW is great filmmaking. Why are there so many senators posting here, and indeed, such a large fanbase if it is completely crap filmmaking?

The White Tuxedo

05-03-2006, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by James@May 2 2006, 08:19 PM
SW is great filmmaking. Why are there so many senators posting here, and indeed, such a large fanbase if it is completely crap filmmaking?
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Actually, people often like crap. Look at all the people watching American Idol.

Whether people like it or not isn't always a true indication of quality.

As for whether Star Wars is great filmmaking? I think the first two are the only real classics. ROTJ and The Prequels are fun, but not classics. That's just my opinion. Star Wars (the original) was revolutionary, and Empire is (I think) better as a film.

But 2001 is amazing stuff to me! I'd put it in my Top 10 movies. Star Wars wouldn't be in my Top 20!

thepepgal

05-03-2006, 08:56 AM

Great is in the eye of the beholder as it depends on how you define a great film.

I love them and consider that the films are great.

Without SW a lot of the current filmmakers wouldn't be in the business. They admit to seeing the original film as a kid and deciding that the industry was where they wanted to be. It also made leaps and bounds in the SFX department. GL is always pushing the bounds in sound quality and film making which is why the part of the PT were shot digitally. Some people dislike the dialogue but how many can't quote a line or two. They rank high in the highest grossing films of all time.

The films were a change of direction for all film making so should be considered great for that influence alone.

Darth Badly

05-03-2006, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Jack Spencer Jr@May 1 2006, 09:15 PM
Over in the PTF, the topic of whether the original trilogy are geat filmmaking or not. So, are they? What is great filmmaking and how does the original trilogy meet that criteria?
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I regard the first film (ANH) as great filmmaking.

I think ESB is a better film for SW fans and people who have seen the first film. Is it as ground breaking? - no ANH came first.

Bandersnatch

05-03-2006, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Mothman+May 2 2006, 12:19 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mothman @ May 2 2006, 12:19 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Bandersnatch@May 2 2006, 05:18 AM
As big a fan of all 6 Star Wars movies, I still have to answer "no."

Lucas is a great filmmaker, and Star Wars is a whole lot of fun and I love it to death, but I have a hard time calling it great filmmaking.

THX-1138 is great filmmaking.* American Graffitti is great filmmaking.* Gosford Park, The Aviator, Barry Lyndon and Citizen Kane are great filmmaking.
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Could you expand on how you define "THX 1138" or "American Graffiti" as great filmmaking? And, how "Star Wars" (the original Ep. IV ANH before it was called that) is not? Thanks!
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It's entirely subjective, of course, but to me the phrase "great filmmaking" has more of an artsy-fartsy tone to it. THX and Graffitti are real works of art, and while I think Star Wars is too, it just seems that Lucas made it to see if he could create a big commerical Hollywood blockbuster. He did, and succeeded amazingly well. But Star Wars, while it's one of my favorite things, isn't something that strikes me as "great filmmaking" on the same level as Kurosawa or John Ford. I think Lucas might even agree with that. There are tons of references to those filmmakers, and there are some cute comic-book things that happen and the technology spawned from SW certainly means a lot to filmmaking today, but it still isn't The Hidden Fortress or The Searchers.

So I guess it depends on what you mean by "great filmmaking."

Or maybe I don't know what the hell I'm talking about!
:beer:

Mothman

05-03-2006, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Darth Badly+May 3 2006, 06:18 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Badly @ May 3 2006, 06:18 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Jack Spencer Jr@May 1 2006, 09:15 PM
Over in the PTF, the topic of whether the original trilogy are geat filmmaking or not. So, are they? What is great filmmaking and how does the original trilogy meet that criteria?
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I regard the first film (ANH) as great filmmaking.

I think ESB is a better film for SW fans and people who have seen the first film. Is it as ground breaking? - no ANH came first.
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I totally agree, Badly. IMO, of the entire saga, only the original Star Wars was what I would consider great filmmaking. I think that you struck it right when you used the term "ground breaking." While ESB might have been technically superior in various respects, it is still same old, same old.

It's like the Godfather movies. The original was great filmmaking. Then the critics raved about Godfather II, saying that it was even better than the original. But to me, it was just more of the same. Only the original was great filmmaking. (Let's not even talk about that dreadful Godfather III.)

General Nikola

05-03-2006, 04:46 PM

Atlough the Prequels are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
better than the OT to me,I don't consider them great filmmaking.Especially not ROTS.A bunch of special effects and cool stuff cover a pretty big pile of crap (Sorry)
:D

ANH,just like Mothman said,is the original,and must be considered great filmmaking. :hmmm:

Darth Octavious

05-03-2006, 05:48 PM

Why is ESB a fan favorite but its the second-lowest seen episodes in theaters?

The Bandit

05-04-2006, 12:09 AM

Great is thrown around too much and often applied to things that don't deserve it.

Great filmmaking? Certainly, especially from the technical side of things. Lucas is a great technician, a great editor. I would say his overall direction skills are uneven, especially when it comes to working with

Great films? No. I'm not going to try and sit back and attempt to pretend to define what a great film is, but I know one when I see it. Star Wars is fun, it's entertaining, but it doesn't acheive that abstract idea that is 'greatness.'

-- 2bq

bluemilk

05-04-2006, 12:13 AM

greatness is subjective my fluttering friend ;) I think A New Hope was great filmmaking because of its groundbreaking technical brilliance.

The Bandit

05-04-2006, 12:29 AM

^ Which is exactly why this is a completely subjective question. You're not going to get an objective answer, my azure colored lactose beverage friend.

-- 2bq

bluemilk

05-04-2006, 12:42 AM

*lol* what's the sound of one hand clapping? questions like these are the Uncarved Block of Star Wars fandom but they do tickle my taoist sensibilities :yoda:

Leiafan

05-04-2006, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by Bandersnatch@May 2 2006, 06:18 AM
As big a fan of all 6 Star Wars movies, I still have to answer "no."

Lucas is a great filmmaker, and Star Wars is a whole lot of fun and I love it to death, but I have a hard time calling it great filmmaking.
So do I. Like Han Solo, it has its moments, though. :D

I'm a huge SW fan, but I wouldn't list the SW movies, any of them, in my top 10 list of great movies. On my top 10 list of favorite movies, sure. But not in my top 10 list of great movies. Nor the top 20 list. Maybe in my top 50 list, or top 100 list -- but even that's a pretty shaky "maybe," and due more to the fact that I haven't seen a copious amount of great movies than to any inherent greatness on their part. I have one friend who has seen a stupefying number of movies, and though he, too, is a SW fan, he doesn't consider them examples of great moviemaking.

The appeal of SW lies outside the factors that are generally thought of as making a movie great: acting, writing, directing. Perhaps ESB is stronger in those factors than the other movies in the series, but it still has a long way to go before being considered great.

The White Tuxedo

05-04-2006, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Leiafan+May 3 2006, 09:10 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leiafan @ May 3 2006, 09:10 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Bandersnatch@May 2 2006, 06:18 AM
As big a fan of all 6 Star Wars movies, I still have to answer "no."

Lucas is a great filmmaker, and Star Wars is a whole lot of fun and I love it to death, but I have a hard time calling it great filmmaking.
So do I. Like Han Solo, it has its moments, though. :D

I'm a huge SW fan, but I wouldn't list the SW movies, any of them, in my top 10 list of great movies. On my top 10 list of favorite movies, sure. But not in my top 10 list of great movies. Nor the top 20 list. Maybe in my top 50 list, or top 100 list -- but even that's a pretty shaky "maybe," and due more to the fact that I haven't seen a copious amount of great movies than to any inherent greatness on their part. I have one friend who has seen a stupefying number of movies, and though he, too, is a SW fan, he doesn't consider them examples of great moviemaking.

The appeal of SW lies outside the factors that are generally thought of as making a movie great: acting, writing, directing. Perhaps ESB is stronger in those factors than the other movies in the series, but it still has a long way to go before being considered great.
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I'm with you on a lot of that. Though I think the first film has a very classic and great "aura" to it.

Jack Spencer Jr

05-04-2006, 08:57 PM

Well, the first movie is basically the original story. I suppose it depends on if you take the original trilogy as individual movies or one great big movie in three parts, sort of like Lord of the Rings.

Bandersnatch

05-05-2006, 07:55 AM

Well, ol' Georgie boy himself says that all 6 movies are one big movie, so there you go.

Mothman

05-05-2006, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Bandersnatch@May 5 2006, 04:55 AM
Well, ol' Georgie boy himself says that all 6 movies are one big movie, so there you go.
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Ol' Georgie Boy says a lot of things, but you can't always believe them.

Jack Spencer Jr

05-05-2006, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by Mothman@May 5 2006, 01:31 PM

Ol' Georgie Boy says a lot of things, but you can't always believe them.
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True dat. Remember when he was denying the very existence of the Holiday Special? It exists, or else what are all those bootleg videos at cons?

JSunday

05-05-2006, 06:00 PM

As importantly they constitute great STORYTELLING....and in this case, done visually. Yeah, I think they're all that.

Bandersnatch

05-05-2006, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by Mothman+May 5 2006, 12:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mothman @ May 5 2006, 12:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Bandersnatch@May 5 2006, 04:55 AM
Well, ol' Georgie boy himself says that all 6 movies are one big movie, so there you go.
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Ol' Georgie Boy says a lot of things, but you can't always believe them.
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Right. Because we all know he's a lying sack of cocky-doody, right?

<!--QuoteBegin-Jack Spencer Jr@May 5 2006, 03:05 PM
Remember when he was denying the very existence of the Holiday Special? It exists, or else what are all those bootleg videos at cons?
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Burn them, I hope.

:nahnah:

Jack Spencer Jr

05-05-2006, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Bandersnatch@May 5 2006, 08:33 PM
Right. Because we all know he's a lying sack of cocky-doody, right?

No, but let's not get into that again.

Darth Octavious

05-06-2006, 03:54 PM

SW Holiday Special, A cult classic!

James

05-07-2006, 02:38 AM

What GL says goes - if he says that the SW movies are one long movie than they are.

techno-union

05-07-2006, 02:22 PM

With out a doubt A New Hope constitutes great film making.

Look at say, R2 on tatooine after 3PO left him, not a single line of dialogue is spoken, not a single person appears on screen, yet the audience is still just as engaged in the movie if not more so, than if it were a human. It takes skill to do that.

James

05-07-2006, 08:28 PM

Anyway, who's to decide what the criteria is for great filmmaking?

techno-union

05-08-2006, 04:31 AM

Good point

James

05-08-2006, 05:01 AM

thanx techie :)

thepepgal

05-08-2006, 08:35 AM

Anyway, who's to decide what the criteria is for great filmmaking?

It is entirely subjective and everyone has a different view on that. ;)

Mothman

05-08-2006, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by thepepgal@May 8 2006, 05:35 AM
It is entirely subjective and everyone has a different view on that. ;)
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I disagree (he says sarcastically). :D

James

05-08-2006, 07:09 PM

everyone has different ideas on what great filmmaking is.

if SW isn't such great filmmaking, how come it's got such a massive fan base and Darth Vader is quoted so often, "I am your father"???? it's become a classic.

empire21

05-08-2006, 08:52 PM

Who really cares wether it's "Great Filmmaking" or not it's fun to watch, thats all that should matter, damn i'm getting bitter and cynical in my old age, and i'm only 26.

JediMasterJamz

05-08-2006, 10:45 PM

Aah, the curse of aging

I agree that the definition of great filmmaking is subjective.

But, what can I say that hasn't been said already?

James

05-09-2006, 04:28 AM

I sense that this thread is rapidly becoming redundant ;)

Mothman

05-09-2006, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by James@May 9 2006, 01:28 AM
I sense that this thread is rapidly becoming redundant ;)
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Yeah! And people are saying the same thing - over and over again!! :bye:

James

05-09-2006, 06:23 PM

hehehe :)

Jack Spencer Jr

05-09-2006, 08:27 PM

Nah. Folks just need to understand that this is a question with no definitive answer, but you can still built some interesting arguments for it.

James

05-10-2006, 02:45 AM

Before we can start debating we need to find the overall universal definition for great filmmaking. How can it be debated when no one can agree on what *great filmmaking* is?

thepepgal

05-10-2006, 09:11 AM

Before we can start debating we need to find the overall universal definition for great filmmaking. How can it be debated when no one can agree on what *great filmmaking* is?

It isn't that what a debate is? A discussion on a topic where people express their feeling.

Mothman

05-10-2006, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by James@May 9 2006, 11:45 PM
Before we can start debating we need to find the overall universal definition for great filmmaking. How can it be debated when no one can agree on what *great filmmaking* is?
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"I'm looking for a great filmmaker."

"Ahhh! A great filmmaker. Films not make one great." :yoda:

elelohesterling

05-10-2006, 03:27 PM

HECK YEAH. This is the best there is!!
CRIMSON LORD VADER

Zedekk

05-10-2006, 04:01 PM

Great Film making yes. for the time they came out and were pushing the SFX limits and techniques absolutly. Thanks to these films we all get to enjoy improved sound and picture quality thanks George!

Darth Graves

06-10-2006, 06:10 PM

as a connoisuir of basic movie media since the age of 7 when i first watched a indiana jones movie, i would say that compared to other movies MADE AT THAT TIME, comparing ideas and authenticity with other movies made for that genre i would say that yes the originaly made star wars movies are amazing. they actualy fooled people into truly believing that there was something else out there, it wasnt the star trek junk that did it it was star wars.

Qolt QuaZar

11-08-2006, 11:18 AM

Over in the PTF, the topic of whether the original trilogy are geat filmmaking or not. So, are they? What is great filmmaking and how does the original trilogy meet that criteria?

Good lord....the original trilogy DEFINED great, modern filmmaking. The very notion that this is being debated boggles the mind.

Fish1941

11-08-2006, 02:02 PM

Good lord....the original trilogy DEFINED great, modern filmmaking. The very notion that this is being debated boggles the mind.

The entire SIX-MOVIE SAGA constitutes great filmaking, in my opinion.

RollaFett

11-08-2006, 04:49 PM

Well, I won't go as far as to say that the entire saga constitutes great filmmaking, I will say that the original trilogy, in particular ANH & ESB, does.
As already stated, they introduced a new genre, invented techniques, etc. Plus, the classic characters, music, terminology...it boggles the mind how impactful the films were and still are. That doesn't occur with an average movie. No, that was great filmmaking.

Fish1941

11-09-2006, 07:15 PM

Mothman

11-10-2006, 03:09 PM

Well, I won't go as far as to say that the entire saga constitutes great filmmaking, I will say that the original trilogy, in particular ANH & ESB, does.....

I would agree that the label "great" should be limited to ANH and ESB. The rest are rather lame by comparison - or better said, not up to expectations.

:bye:

RollaFett

11-10-2006, 04:33 PM

jayce76

11-10-2006, 07:02 PM

I can't believe this is a question asked . . . yes there are great filmaking.

Mothman

11-10-2006, 07:17 PM

Heh, heh...I with you on the 'great' description, but I also wouldn't go as far as to call the rest 'lame'. In fact, as far as 'not up to expectations' goes, I would only attatch that to TPM and maybe ROTJ.

IMO, Episodes I, II, III & VI were not up to expectations.

To me, ROTS was especially not up to expectations. Having been waiting for nearly 30 years to find out about the big revelation about what caused Vader's turn, I was left unconvinced.

:bye:

jayce76

11-12-2006, 03:24 PM

Good lord....the original trilogy DEFINED great, modern filmmaking. The very notion that this is being debated boggles the mind.

I know it!!!!!:ugh:

princess_leia

11-12-2006, 11:07 PM

IM SO OBSESSED WITH STAR WARS!!!

AND THE ONLY CHARACTER THAT MADE "STAR WARS" WAS DARTH ANAKINVADER......NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT!

STAR WARS...IS NOT GREAT FILM-MAKING?????????!!!!!! OH MY GOD..UR NOT A TRUE FAN!!!!!!!! IF U WERE U WOULDNT HAVE NUTHING NEGATIVE 2 SAY ABOUT IT!!!
AND I PERSONALLY FEEL BAD FOR GEORGE LUCAS...HE DIDNT GET ALOT OF CREDIT FOR THE PREQUEL TRILOGY ESPECIALLY EPISODE 2-ATTACK OF THE CLONES...I DIDNT GIVE A DAM IF THAT ONE WAS BORING...I STILL HAD A GOOD DAM TIME WATCHING IT!!! HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB IN ALL "6" STAR WARS FILMS..AND YES, THEY WERE ALL EXCELLENT-FILM-MAKING................AND ALL THE ACTRESSES/ACTORS WHO PLAYED IN THEM

James

11-12-2006, 11:56 PM

princess leia please don't type all in caps or it makes it look as if you are SHOUTING. Thanks.

Mothman

11-13-2006, 04:03 PM

princess leia please don't type all in caps or it makes it look as if you are SHOUTING. Thanks.

WHAT???

:bye:

Fish1941

02-05-2007, 04:23 PM

Jedi Master Harrison

02-05-2007, 04:40 PM

Of course the OT is great filmaking, it's just that . . . it's not as interesting to discuss about as the PT is. At least to me. About a year ago, my dad and I were watching ANH and he made a comment that took me by surprise. He said that although ANH and the rest of the OT were still great movies, he preferred to watch the PT, because he found it more interesting. He added that sometimes, the OT seemed a bit too simple and immature for his tastes.

I would agree with that. Overall, I probably love the 2 trilogies equally, but it just depends in what kind of mood I am in as to which film from which trilogy I will most enjoy watching. Between the 6 films they have almost everything.

Cydon

02-05-2007, 04:40 PM

Its nothing like The Bridge on the River Kwai, or Lawrence of Arabia though...

Mothman

02-05-2007, 06:16 PM

Its nothing like The Bridge on the River Kwai, or Lawrence of Arabia though...

I don't know. The 2 films you mention and all 3 films of the OT have appearances by Sir Alec Guinness. Coincidence? I think not!

:bye:

Kapit

02-05-2007, 06:23 PM

In terms of overall storytelling, the entire saga is definitely one of the best stories ever told. the rise, fall, and redemption of anakin is an amazing story. debate all you want about the quality of the scripts, but it's still an amazing story

now in terms of visual filmmaking, here's where things get a little interesting. there is no doubt that in terms of the space battles and things of that sort, GL was a pioneer and those scenes are still amazing. but some will argue that, in terms of shooting the "regular" scenes, it's not quite up to par with other movies of the time, ie The Godfather, which was a beautiful film. i wouldn't say any of the OT films are beautiful, though. yeah, they're fun to watch and they're really cool when it comes to the space battles, but they're just not as visually interesting as a film like The Godfather

Cydon

02-05-2007, 09:45 PM

But was Star Wars directed by David Lean? Bridge AND Arabia were. (not to mention Dr. Zhivago)

Alec Guinness was in Oliver Twist and A Passage to India. Also directed by Lean.

lovelucas

02-06-2007, 09:45 AM

In terms of overall storytelling, the entire saga is definitely one of the best stories ever told. the rise, fall, and redemption of anakin is an amazing story. debate all you want about the quality of the scripts, but it's still an amazing story

Jedi K - I'm with you 100% - and then you add that with every new Star Wars movie - all 6 of them - George and crew created new technology to tell that story and the movie industry in its entirety benefited from the vision, the concepts, the ideas, the technology.

so heck yeah - these constitute great filmaking....
from a certain point of view.

Jedi Master Harrison

02-06-2007, 10:42 AM

I would argue that your statements above ring true from every point of view. If something is good, it's good, regardless of personal opinions.

RollaFett

02-06-2007, 04:40 PM

But was Star Wars directed by David Lean? Bridge AND Arabia were. (not to mention Dr. Zhivago)

Alec Guinness was in Oliver Twist and A Passage to India. Also directed by Lean.

Uh...not to sound like a d**k, but so what? Unless I'm missing something, aren'y we discussing Star Wars?

Kapit

02-11-2007, 09:35 PM

George Lucas apparently doesn't think ESB was that good:

http://www.mcnblogs.com/thehotblog/archives/2007/02/oh_yeah.html#comments

Kam Solusar

02-11-2007, 09:38 PM

George Lucas apparently doesn't think ESB was that good:

http://www.mcnblogs.com/thehotblog/archives/2007/02/oh_yeah.html#comments

I haven't read that yet, but what? It was the least modified when he re-released them.

I totally think that Lucas has this complex about most people citing Empire as the "best" one, since it was the one he was probably the farthest from having complete control on.