The Sith

[TheForce]

How Many Sith Were Active At One Time, in the same movie, in the first prequels? In the first movie, TPM, the was 2 Sith, the Master(Darth Sidious(Palpatine)) and his apprentice(Darth Maul), but was Count Dooku(Darth Tyrannus) a Sith at that time? In the second movie, AOTC, there was Darth Tyrannus(Dooku)and Darth Sidious(Palpatine), and in ROTS, there were Darth Sidious, Darth Tyrannus, Darth Vader(Skywalker) and General Greivous(altho not sure if he is really a Sith Lord), but Tyrannus gets beheaded by Anakin and Vader replaces him eventually. I might have missed some, but please don't tear me a new butt.... :blush:

[Master Magnus]

The easy answer is that there were only two Sith at a time in the prequels. Dooku was not a Sith at the same time as Lord Maul.

[TheForce]

Thanks! :cheers:

[Cassus Fett]

But it has been said Darth Sidious (Palpy) was going to go against Darth Bane's Rule Of Two and bring back the golden age of the sith.

[TheForce]

ok, that was when the Sith ruled the universe... but I wanted to know in the movies... ;)

[Cassus Fett]

sorry but i thought it was a good point to make lol

[andrewkess159]

Like Yoda said:

"There is always 2: a master & an apprentice..."

Ep. 1: Palpatine & Maul
Ep. 2: Palpatine & Dooku
Ep. 3: Palpatine & Vader

Keep in mind that 10 years were in between Ep. 1 & 2 :holosid:

[Darth Pravus]

Originally posted by Cassus Fett@Mar 14 2006, 09:45 PM
But it has been said Darth Sidious (Palpy) was going to go against Darth Bane's Rule Of Two and bring back the golden age of the sith.
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Interesting. Just curious, when does Sidious say that? In the Eu?

[Cassus Fett]

Originally posted by Darth Pravus+Mar 21 2006, 09:19 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Pravus @ Mar 21 2006, 09:19 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Cassus Fett@Mar 14 2006, 09:45 PM
But it has been said Darth Sidious (Palpy) was going to go against Darth Bane's Rule Of Two and bring back the golden age of the sith.
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Interesting. Just curious, when does Sidious say that? In the Eu?
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It's some where in wookiepedia's artical about Sidious.

[JMAS]

Actually, as I understand the EU, Palpidious wasn't going to bring back an army of Sith. It was still going ot only be him as the Sith Master, and his Apprentice (Vader, or whoever he got to replace him) as Sith Lords. He just employed and used many Darksiders, those he twisted to the Dark side, but they didn't have all the in depth and vast knowledge the Sith had. Easier to control that way.

[darthani]

It was always Darth Sidious and one apprentice! SO 2! :D

[csr74]

Though, the problem with Dooku persists, IMO. Unless we consider that by that time (TPM) he wasn´t yet a real Sith , and more of a Dark Jedi instead? :huh: I mean , not having yet got involved with Sidious?

[Darth Chrisious]

Grevious was not force sensitive so he was no sith, so only 2 at all times

[The White Tuxedo]

I alwayswondered what his Sidious' plans for Darth Maul were exactly. Someone like Dooku was needed to form the CIS. Maul was a blunt instrument, not a diplomat.

[OB1]

First Count Dookou is not a sith lord in EP I,and General Grievous is not a sith he is just a droid trained by Count Dookou.So there where two Sith lords in every prequel. :bye:

[Cassus Fett]

Originally posted by The White Tuxedo@Apr 2 2006, 11:54 PM
I alwayswondered what his Sidious' plans for Darth Maul were exactly. Someone like Dooku was needed to form the CIS. Maul was a blunt instrument, not a diplomat.
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He used Maul as an assassin

[The White Tuxedo]

Originally posted by Cassus Fett+Apr 5 2006, 12:47 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cassus Fett @ Apr 5 2006, 12:47 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-The White Tuxedo@Apr 2 2006, 11:54 PM
I alwayswondered what his Sidious' plans for Darth Maul were exactly.* Someone like Dooku was needed to form the CIS.* Maul was a blunt instrument, not a diplomat.
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He used Maul as an assassin
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Yeah, I know. But what would have been his plans for Maul after Episode I. Someone needed to do what Dooku eventually did. I don't think Darth Maul would have been the guy for the job. Or perhaps he would have converted Dooku anyway, and either keep Maul secret or not. It would have broken the Rule of Two, but I can't see Palpatine caring too much about that. :D

[MasterJedi12]

Always two there are. No more, no less. A master and an apprentice-Yoda
That's the way how it always has been. Even in the Jedi there is the master and the apprentice. Sure they teach younglings collectively but to become a guardian of peace and justice, you needed to be taken on as a padawan. For the Jedi comes the bond through which trust is laid. For the Sith, it is in terms of power. The strongest shall rule.

[Sargoth]

Originally posted by Cassus Fett+Mar 24 2006, 12:47 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cassus Fett @ Mar 24 2006, 12:47 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Darth Pravus@Mar 21 2006, 09:19 PM
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But it has been said Darth Sidious (Palpy) was going to go against Darth Bane's Rule Of Two and bring back the golden age of the sith.
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Interesting. Just curious, when does Sidious say that? In the Eu?
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It's some where in wookiepedia's artical about Sidious.
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I'd doubt that unless someone has EU material to back it up. The "rule of two" is very much in play even throughout the OT.

[Erick Landrider]

Originally posted by The White Tuxedo@Apr 2 2006, 06:54 PM
I alwayswondered what his Sidious' plans for Darth Maul were exactly. Someone like Dooku was needed to form the CIS. Maul was a blunt instrument, not a diplomat.
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Inevitably, Palpidious had to change his plans after the Naboo blockade plan failed. I'm willing to bet that he had some type of plan to bring about a full conflict from the situation on Naboo. He just wasn't counting on Amidala's passion nor Maul's early death.

However a major piece of the puzzle was accomplished when he was elected Chancellor, which gave him more resources to bring about his war.

[Sargoth]

I always thought of Naboo as more of a means to an end than anything else. The Naboo crisis was enough to get Palpatine elected Chancellor. Everything else was secondary.

[Erick Landrider]

I think he had more in stock in it than that. He was willing to reveal his ace (Maul) for anyone to see. Also, remember how insistant he was for Amidala to sign the treaty, making the invasion legal. Once again, playing both sides against each other. He had bigger plans for the blockade at Naboo.

[MasterJedi12]

Yeah, he was going to be Emperor.
I have observed that he is very clever at following the passions and the prejudces of the Senators. The best underminers usually are the good talkers. They can be charismatic but alaways keep th ecards hidden. Kind of reminds me of Qui-gon's padawan Xanatos.

[Balnazzar]

There is only one great Sith lord at one time. During the films-Sidius.
If Dooku or Maul would had been given a chance to defeat and prevail Sidius, they would have become the emperors, am I right?

[Sarah-Leia]

First Count Dookou is not a sith lord in EP I,and General Grievous is not a sith he is just a droid trained by Count Dookou.So there where two Sith lords in every prequel. :bye:

Grievous isn't just a droid, he's actually a cyborg, so half mechanic, half organic. He had a heart, we can see that at least in EP II. Wookieepedia says Though technically a member of the Kaleesh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_races_%28K-O%29#Kaleesh) species, his physical body is a fusion of a powerful robotic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg) structure and an organic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_matter) brain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain), nervous system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nervous_system) and sensory organs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_organ).

[Balnazzar]

Grievous isn't just a droid, he's actually a cyborg, so half mechanic, half organic.


Tell me something I don't know- we all saw his heart explode in ep.3..