Star Wars: Legacy comic series

[Anguirus111]

http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/New_O...unced_96836.asp (http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/New_OstranderDuursema_Comic_Series_Announced_96836 .asp)

With the first solicitation imminent, Randy Stradley and John Ostrander have finally revealed the premise of the long-secretive comic project that Ostrander and Jan Duursema, creators of Quinlan Vos and Aayla Secura, have been working on for 2006. The title is Star Wars: Legacy. A tie-in to the Legacy of the Force series? Nope. More like, oh, 100 years later. I'm reserving judgement for the time being, but what is certain is that this opens up a whole world of possibilities that no SW fan dared imagine before; just look at how far the Old Republic era has come since Dark Horse first staked out a claim there. Anyway, head to the Dark Horse forums to see Randy's announcement, and some interesting artwork from the #0 introductory issue.

Holy crap!

EDIT:

Here's a post from Randy Stradley detailing the new series and a new Skywalker.

http://www.darkhorse.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=8732



My dreams have been answered!

[Luvinna]

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Why does this have to be in comic format?!?

Sorry. I'll leave this thread to the comic-lovers now. *sigh*

[Brian]

Oh, what do you mean? Comics are awesome! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

I just hope you don't have to have read the NJO to get into this series. I haven't read any of the NJO books.

[JMAS]

Yikes. I'm kinda bummed that it's a comic too, since I don't buy comics. But the sumary I read ... I'm finding it hard to wrap my brain around it. *shrug* We shall see. I do think the artwork for the red tattooed twilek was pretty sweet though.

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That image is seen on the link posted by Anguirus111 in the first post.

[Luvinna]

Originally posted by JMAS@Feb 1 2006, 02:45 PM
But the sumary I read ... I'm finding it hard to wrap my brain around it.
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Saw that comment a lot at the DH boards, too. I think the reason it's hard to fathom is because it's so far into the future and we don't know what state the galaxy is in after the LOTF series. But that's what makes the idea so exciting. Completely uncharted territory.

*leaves before she starts to rant about it being a comic again...*

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[Ripley]

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It think this good evidence that the people who are saying Jacen isn't going dark just got pwned.</span>

[Lunatic]

Brian,

Its set too far in the future to have strong links to the NJO serie. So you should be ok. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Jediwan]

This looks extremely interesting. Maybe it will open up a new Star Wars Era.

[Kapit]

looks fun, it does...i'll wait for a TPB

[Anguirus111]

Thanks to whoever editted the topic title.

[Brian]

Originally posted by Lunatic@Feb 1 2006, 05:56 PM
Brian,

Its set too far in the future to have strong links to the NJO serie. So you should be ok. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif
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Yea, that's what I'm counting on since I'm instructing my comic shop to order this series for me!

[DarthSolo]

Sigh, a new Sith Order? A rogue Skywalker? Feels....well comic-bookish and video gamish. I'll probably end up reading it cuz the time period interests me, but i really wish the entire continuity didn't have to bend to it, now. I wish they would progress instead of jumping around the timeline. Now the more serious medium has to work like hell to make this realistic feeling. I hope this is done well, but I'm skeptical.

[JMAS]

Originally posted by DarthSolo@Feb 1 2006, 04:35 PM
but i really wish the entire continuity didn't have to bend to it, now.* I wish they would progress instead of jumping around the timeline.* Now the more serious medium has to work like hell to make this realistic feeling.* I hope this is done well, but I'm skeptical.
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Ditto. I'll have to wait until they release it in a trade paperback like they did for DE and CE. Then I might read it. But my problem with jumping this far into the future now forces any author who wants to pen a novel/series set in the time between the LOTF books and this new Legacy comic series to worry about continuity (something the EU is already slammed enough about thank you) matching up with the Legacy comics. I just don't know about it. I guess we'll wait and see.

[Anguirus111]

It could very well get slapped with the Infinities logo we don't know that yet.

I'm assuming this future series won't actually discuss anything about what happened between it and LOTF so that writers can do what they want with the missing time period.

[Ripley]

<span style="color:blue"><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>It could very well get slapped with the Infinities logo we don't know that yet[/b][/quote]

Wrong. Legacy is quite simply the comics returning as the leader of the EU after a twenty year break.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Sigh, a new Sith Order? A rogue Skywalker? Feels....well comic-bookish and video gamish. I'll probably end up reading it cuz the time period interests me, but i really wish the entire continuity didn't have to bend to it, now. I wish they would progress instead of jumping around the timeline. Now the more serious medium has to work like hell to make this realistic feeling. I hope this is done well, but I'm skeptical.[/b][/quote]

Quotes thrown around about novels being a more serious medium is utterly spurious. How the blending of the written word and the power of the image can be seen as childlike only comes from years of stereotyping the medium as more marketable to kids with short attention spans.

As we know in the world of novels there are novels for all the different ranges of reading levels. I'd read Dr. Seuss to my sister, give Harry Potter to my niece in grade school, and read Chuck Palahniuk to myself. I know my sister or niece isn't ready for Fight Club, so I don't let them read it till they've reached the maturity to take in Chuck. The effect is the same in comics. I would feel fine showing Marvel Adventures Spider-Man to my sister, yet I wouldn't let her read some of my favourite titles like Strangers in Paradise, Fables, or The Sandman. The simplification of this entire form of expression is an injustice.

The continuity issue shouldn't be a problem. Look at Ostrander's most popular work, the Clone Wars arc. John is able to avoid massive continuity errors. He references other works, such as showing the devestation of Honoghr in Armor and showing dreadnaughts in the Clone Wars with Dreadnaughts of Rendili. This is not some two cent hack off the street that Dark Horse randomly picked off the street. Republic, Jedi, and Purge are among the greats of the EU. Ostrander is able to create well developed original characters such as Quinlan Vos and Aalya while being respectful to the established characters and canon. Randy Stradley and the people at LFL are not fooling around by having John helm the writing. There is a reason John has had two of his characters upgraded to G-canon.

On the art side, Jan Duuresma and Dan Parsons have upheld the Star Wars tradition of amazing visuals. The day of Dark Empire "art", a term I use in the loosest sense, are long gone. The drawings are done in such an excellent manner that my adverson to these cheap covers Del Rey produce should be understandable. The outstanding work by Duuresma/Parsons add depth to the story like the movies, helping in transporting the reader to the galaxy far, far away. The visual element is in great hands as well.

The whole talk of things coming full circle in the Legacy Era makes having the comics at the forefront make perfect sense. The comics are an entergral part of the EU since the beginning.

Fact #1. The first purely EU story is a comic(Marvel Star Wars #7, New Planets, New Perils).

Fact #2. The first post-Return of the Jedi story is a comic(Marvel Star Wars #81, Jawas of Doom).

Fact #3. The Marvel line kept the EU alive till 1986, three years after the last novel in the original Del Rey run was released. During that time, the EU comic was the only source for Star Wars.

Fact #4. On the Star Wars timeline, the first canon story is a comic. That being Tales of the Jedi: The Golden Age of the Sith.

That is a sampling of the importance comics have played in EU history. Having the comics come back as the leader of the pack is having the EU come full circle. The novels has had fifthteen years to shape the future of the EU. Time to pass the baton back.

Also quite possibly the fact that Legacy at the front could be the fact LFL wanted to return to the soul of Star Wars. There is a reason we've seen only two New Jedi Order Era comics. I'll let Randy Stradley's words speak for themself.

Originally posted by Randy Stradley
While, admittedly, Mike Richardson and I were not happy that an idea for a new direction we'd presented to LF was subsequently handed over to Del Rey to flesh-out and exploit, the reason we didn't jump into the NJO had mostly to do with the fact that we just didn't feel that what the DR authors wanted to do was "Star Wars-y" enough.

But, as anyone who has worked with me will tell you, I have very particular ideas about how SW stories should be approached and how they should be executed. The likelihood that I would have been 100% happy with ANYTHING that ANYBODY had come up with were slim.

As you can see, the belief that Del Rey's handeling of the post-ROTJ line is false. The mixed reception of New Jedi Order and Dark Nest compared to the near universal praise of Republic says a lot. The fact that Randy actually posts at the Dark Horse message boards and fansites like TFN paints a picture that show while he is going to ultimately publish what he wants, he will lesson to the common fan's opinion. Del Rey hardly even updates their Star Wars section, relying on the official site to premote, nor is there the level of fan interaction. The fact that the Dark Horse team from editor up tends to have more interaction with the fan might be a reason LFL is giving the reins to Dark Horse.

The debate always comes up to what is exactly Star Wars? Star Wars gives off is this that of how giving into evil leads to destruction, that of being selfless over being selfish, the horrors that tyranny can create, etc. Del Rey wanting to rip out the basic battle of good and evil and replacing it with the weakness of moral relatism is reason enough to lose the main focus of the EU. Having illogical flips in characterization that plagues New Jedi Order and Dark Nest compared to consistent characterization of the Clone Wars line might be why LFL did what it did. Having the Jedi actually be noble defenders of the people compared to thugs who don't care about the people could be why. Quite simply, history shows who has respected the Star Wars name more.

It is extremely obvious why Legacy exists. It's a move back to the roots of the EU and Star Wars. People may complain about Legacy of the Force having to play second fiddle, but the novels deserve it. Stereotypes aren't going get rid of it, misconeptions isn't, nor is events of some novels. Legacy is going to be leading the EU into a new age because of the pure fact the comic team deserves it. I have the utmost confidence in John, Jan, and Dan. The return of the EU comic as the leader of the EU and Legacy is the future. Deal with it.</span>

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Whilst I don't agree with what you say about the novels, Ripley, I totally agree with what you say about the recognition that should be given to comics.

Those of us who don't really get into them as much as books are really just affected by our own prejudices/preferences against the medium.

I still haven't really been able to get into the comics, but I don't dispute that they have been an important part of the EU.

As for this particular series - it looks very interesting, but my first thought was along the lines of what Luke had to say in The Joiner King regarding his concerns about fixing the future... style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

However, I think it is a bold move by LL to develop an interst in a post-big 3 era to prepare us all for a future without them.

[Brian]

What I like about the Dark Horse editors, Randy and Jeremy, is that they seem like they are having FUN interacting with the fans over at darkhorse.com. The Del Rey folks don't do a lot of interacting. I guess they are too busy reading manuscripts.

The Star Wars comics are funner than ever and I'm tremendously excited about this series and the other 2 new series, KOTOR and Rebellion. The bar had been raised by Republic, Jedi, and Empire (and the new, now cancelled Tales). Now Dark Horse has leaped over the bar and raised it even higher.

Also, with a comic, there will be hits and misses, but there are at least 12 a year and it only takes you minutes to read an issue. With a novel, you dedicate several hours (days, even) to read it and the book could be terrible. That's no fun. Plus, you can count on 1 hand how many (adult) novels come out each year. At least comics have pretty pictures. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Brian]

And 1 more thing: by going 100 years beyond the last Star Wars era, Dark Horse doesn't have to worry about continuity. It is uncharted territory. Every character will be new and more freedom is allowed in story-telling.

[DarthSolo]

Ripley, i wasn't calling into question the validity of the comics in the SW galaxy. I simply don't like the medium of comics too much. Main reason is because they can't develop character as well as a good book can. No medium can, simply because of the fact that the book's action takes place very much in the character's head, while comics and movies are all visual. To each his own, and my own happens to be novels.

[Tarkin the Ewok]

To those who are saying they will wait for "the TPB," realize that this will be an entire era of storytelling. There could be as many or more stories as there are in the Republic series.

I'm excited about the possibilities, but I am also a little scared that the path of the Chosen One and the journey of the movie heroes will be rendered meaningless with a new Empire and Sith Order.

One major thing in favor of the current comic lines is that they are being planned out pretty far ahead. This will allow for more purpose in the storytelling of each issue.

We may not have a movie, but with two Legacy products coming out, May will still be a big month for Star Wars fans.

[Master Magnus]

While I'm a member of the EUDF (well I can't approve of everything...), I think it sounds too formulaic and there are also some things that doesn't sit right with me. First of all, GL said that the Sith had been extinct in ROTJ so bringing the Sith back into existence diminishes the movies (and it has already been done). Furthermore, the story is set a hundred years after the NJO, which is far too short (some characters would with all likelyhood still be alive). To me, this whole idea sounds like fanfiction.
However, it's still far too early to pass off judgment, this could turn out good, but I reiterate that I think it sounds too formulaic.
I don't read the comics anyway, but just like Suzanne, I recognize that they're as much part of the continuity as the novels.

[Suzanne (ex CoS Leia)]

Originally posted by Master Magnus@Feb 2 2006, 08:33 PM
While I'm a member of the EUDF (well I can't approve of everything...), I think it sounds too formulaic and there are also some things that doesn't sit right with me. First of all, GL said that the Sith had been extinct in ROTJ so bringing the Sith back into existence diminishes the movies (and it has already been done).
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I actually have the same reservation about the LotF series - I am concerned that the return of Lumiya potentially as a Sith devalues the whole Saga. What's the point of aa thousand year prophecy about "The Chosen One" culminating in emaculate conception through the midichlorians, unusual training, fall, 20 years of empire and eventual destruction of the Sith if they're just going to rise again in another 30 years - and then again 100 years later?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Furthermore, the story is set a hundred years after the NJO, which is far too short (some characters would with all likelyhood still be alive). To me, this whole idea sounds like fanfiction.[/b][/quote]

I hadn't even thought of that - you would expect that Ben and Allana could still be around. But this follows my previously stated concern about "fixing the future".

[Whuffa]

I agree with what other people have said:

bringing back the sith and "de-balancing" the force again undermines the whole point of the movies and is IMHO not true to Lucas' vision. While this may turn out to be a really great series, at this point I am very skeptical.

Also, the computer-generated art is really off-putting in my opinion and I don't like it at all. The Twi'lek looks like the typical cliche comic-book villian-babe, right down to the bathing suit which I'm sure is very practical in life and death situations. The new Skywalker also looks like he stepped out of a game. And the logo plus general design are kinda ugly IMHO.
Oh, and it just doesn't feel like star wars to me. When I look at the little preview it feels like it's a Resident Evil or some other video-game tie-in, but not Star Wars.
I love comics and have no prejudices to them as a medium, but this looks just too much like the reason people do.

Having said that, I'm still very much open to the possibility that this will in fact be a great series, who knows!

[Luvinna]

Originally posted by DarthSolo@Feb 2 2006, 12:03 AM
Ripley, i wasn't calling into question the validity of the comics in the SW galaxy. I simply don't like the medium of comics too much. Main reason is because they can't develop character as well as a good book can. No medium can, simply because of the fact that the book's action takes place very much in the character's head, while comics and movies are all visual. To each his own, and my own happens to be novels.
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Exactly my feelings.

I never said the novels were in anyway better than comics. I just don't like the medium of comic books. They don't capture my intrest the way novels do. I'd rather read about a fight sequence than try to figure out what's going on by staring at a series of pictures for 10 minutes.

I also don't see continuity being an issue, either. 100 years is a long time. We have no idea what's been going on in those 100 years. Think of all that happened in the 100 years before the NJO. As Brian said, it's uncharted territory.

I've been reading an on-going series by another author in which the most recently published book is somewhere around 125 to 150 years after the first book and the author very rarely even mentions the things that happened in the first part of series anymore. It's all new characters and an all new story. And even though they are still fighting the same evil (different villians; same evil), it hasn't gotten old at all.

I think this series has some great potential. I just wish it wasn't a comic series.

[Jediwan]

Like I said maybe it will open a new era in Star Wars EU and that could include novels.

[JMAS]

Originally posted by Brian@Feb 1 2006, 09:10 PM
Also, with a comic, ... there are at least 12 a year and it only takes you minutes to read an issue. With a novel, you dedicate several hours (days, even) to read it and the book could be terrible. That's no fun. Plus, you can count on 1 hand how many (adult) novels come out each year. At least comics have pretty pictures. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif
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You are right that there are more comics that come out in a year than there are novels. However, you pay how much for a comic book issue? $2, maybe more? But for me, I prefer a novel that's going to take me a week or more to finish (I'm not a speed reader and like to absorb everything a novel has to offer). The comics take you 5 minutes to read, and that's it, it's done. Sure you get 12 a year, but put 12 editions of a comic series (for a combined price of roughly $20) and you still don't have nearly the same volume of content that you get in a single novel. That's my take.

I'm not knocking comics. I think they are great and I appreciate the artists who do such wonderful work for them. But it's why I prefer novels to comics. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[DarthSolo]

Originally posted by Master Magnus@Feb 2 2006, 01:33 AM
I think it sounds too formulaic and there are also some things that doesn't sit right with me. Furthermore, the story is set a hundred years after the NJO, which is far too short (some characters would with all likelyhood still be alive). To me, this whole idea sounds like fanfiction.
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Yes, that's the feeling I was trying to vocalize. I'll reserve judgement, and I'll probably even pick these up and read them, but I dunno. Seems very fanficish.

RE: living characters, it's very likely that Ben and Allana will be rather old, and that's just humans. What about Lowbacca/wookiees? And other species that live a long time. At this point, it would seem logical that if Lowie survives, he'd be one of the premier Jedi. But, if he doesn't then that takes all the shock out of his death when it does come in the pre-Legacy comic books (or comics).

I think I'd be more comfortable if this was set like 500 years after. The Skywalker line is still too closely connected to Luke for me to be comfortable with this Cade character being a bounty-hunter Jedi. Cade has got to be the son or grandson of Ben (so now we KNOW that Ben will have children, no suspense there, and we likely know his future mate). There's also the possibility that Luke trained Cade a bit, only for him to go rogue? Just the fact that there is a closely-tied Skywalker will spoil so much of what actually happens during/after LOTF, unless there's just no history given at alll, which would just make the characters shallow.

[Whuffa]

Well we don't know for sure if Cade is Ben's son or grandson, Luke could have morec hildren in the future, but I agree with you that it'd be better if this was set closer to 500 years in the future. If the galaxy is totaly screwed up again then it means that Luke, Leia and Han did all that fighting for a very short-lived peace and it kinda makes their struggless seem... sad in way.

[TuskenRaider1]

Lets remember too that the distance between Anakin and Luke (1 generation) was huge, and had things been a bit different, Luke would ahve stayed on Tatoinne a little longer, or gone to the academy etc. Its not a big leap that 2-3 generations later there is a break....

[Luvinna]

There's actually a bigger generation gap between Luke and Ben (~46 years) than there is between Luke and Anakin (23 years). Provided Ben doesn't wait so long to start a family, Cade could possibly be his great-grandson. Or, as Wuffa pointed out, he may not be directly descended from Ben either. Someone hinted to that over at the DH boards.
Originally posted by John Ostrander
http://www.darkhorse.com/boards/viewtopic....2209d343#118610 (http://www.darkhorse.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=118610&sid=38cb311f9615d9c8851893382209d343#118610)

Cade couldn't be Ben's son; the timing doesn't work.He could be the GRANDSON. Assuming that he's Ben's offspring at all.<g>

That's all for now.

[Brian]

Luvinna, that "someone" is John Ostrander, the writer for this comic series. He pretty much knows what he's talking about in this regard.

[Luvinna]

Originally posted by Brian@Feb 2 2006, 05:14 PM
Luvinna, that "someone" is John Ostrander, the writer for this comic series. He pretty much knows what he's talking about in this regard.
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I know. That's why it says "John Ostrander" in the quote box. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif I just couldn't remember his name until I went and looked for the post and didn't change what I'd already written. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

What I'm wondering though, is did he say that just to get the fans riled up and speculating, or does he know something we don't?

[Brian]

Both, I'm guessing. That post by Randy was meant to be a teaser and generate discussion. It worked in both regards. Look, he even has The Galactic Senate talking about comics, something that rarely happens! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[eddie]

I'll keep from commenting until the series arrives (but I am quite easy in most regards and jump excitedly with every new series announced). However, I really, really love the fact that this series moves us even further into the SW-timeline (over a year I jumped from joy when a post-NJO series was announced with the Dark Nest books, and look now: we've got an upcoming book-series as well as a comicbook series!!!) style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[Forceknight]

I for one look forward to this series in spite of having no particular interest in the comics usually. I think it'll be nice to see a star wars universe that has a lack of a massively force powerful skywalker around for once, or at least, a skywalker that hides his jedi heritage and presumably his force powers as well.

[Ripley]

Nice article in Insider about the comic. Noticed the more Trekkish look to the Imperial outfit along with Cade looking hotter in the enlarged picture.

[DarthSolo]

Have we seen any new images from it online?

As well, what is the date for the first release? Sometime in May, correct?

[JMAS]

Legacy #1 is set for release on June 7, 2006.

Here's an images from the Legacy #1.
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And one from Legacy #2, set for July release.
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[DarthSolo]

Interesting. Wasn't there some sort of Legacy #0 that was supposed to come out?

[JMAS]

Yeah, there was. Forgot that one. So we have

Legacy #0 set for May 2006 release.
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Legacy #1 set for June 2006 release
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Legacy #2 set for July 2006 release
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[Brian]

I hope the covers end up having more juice to them. As of now, the chracters look like they were generated using the super hero generator: http://www.ugo.com/channels/comics/heroMac...eromachine2.asp (http://www.ugo.com/channels/comics/heroMachine2/heromachine2.asp). Seriously.

I'm curious to see the interiors because the covers are not doing it for me. However, the story seems to be interesting.

[Ithorian guy]

Cade Skywalker is going to kick so much ass!

[Luvinna]

As much as I'm not a fan of the comic book format, this one has me interested. I'll probably take a look at it once it hits TPB. Of course, if what I see here doesn't sell me on it, I may change my mind.

[DarthSolo]

I've never owned a graphic novel in my life. I've read a couple in passing, but never owned one. How much can we expect these to cost?

[Luvinna]

I bought Union as individual comics as they were released, and each of those 4 issues was about $3 (7 years ago; don't know how much a comic costs now). My By The Emperor's Hand TPB retailed for $16, but I got it off Amazon for about $11.

[Brian]

Originally posted by Luvinna@Apr 13 2006, 10:25 PM
I bought Union as individual comics as they were released, and each of those 4 issues was about $3 (7 years ago; don't know how much a comic costs now). My By The Emperor's Hand TPB retailed for $16, but I got it off Amazon for about $11.
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Bingo. Most Star Wars comics today are still $2.99. TPB costs range from $12.95 to $17.95 depending on how many issues the TPB collects.

[Galahad_Skywalker]

Originally posted by Whuffa@Feb 2 2006, 04:58 PM
Well we don't know for sure if Cade is Ben's son or grandson, Luke could have morec hildren in the future, but I agree with you that it'd be better if this was set closer to 500 years in the future. If the galaxy is totaly screwed up again then it means that Luke, Leia and Han did all that fighting for a very short-lived peace and it kinda makes their struggless seem... sad in way.
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I feel the same way...this basically means our heroes never really got much of a rest at all, which is very sad. Though I'm very interested in seeing how they pull this off.

BTW, anyone else think that Cade's male comrade in the art for issue #2 looks like Samuel L. Jackson?

[Ithorian guy]

I thought he looked more like Jimi Hendrix.

[Ripley]

Originally posted by DarthSolo@Apr 13 2006, 09:15 PM
I've never owned a graphic novel in my life. I've read a couple in passing, but never owned one. How much can we expect these to cost?
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On average a single issue is about the upper $2ish range for a 35 issue comic. Trade Paperback price depends on how many issues are in the book. They can be anywhere between $10-$20 for a TPB. Larger TPBs like the one upcoming mega X-Wing or the Marvel reprints, which have around 10-15 issues, are around $35.

[Luvinna]

The Insider has an article on the Legacy comic series this issue that's rather interesting. It talks a bit about the Sith we see in this series and explains how they're not like the Sith we knew from the movies. I'll give you a couple quotes (pardon any typos).
By examining the entire notion of the Sith and putting their own spin on it, Ostrander and Duursema have come up with a much less black and white portrayal of the dark Jedi than previous stories. Surrounded by death and turmoil, this new breed of Sith wants to save a tumultuous and fractured galaxy, and feels the only way to do so is by taking control over it. "They see the Jedi as agents of chaos. While they're founded upon Sith principles, they are not the same as the other Sith. They have a different reason for what they want to do," Ostrander says, believing that their motivation could be something many readers find themselves almost subscribing to. "According to [their] view, the galaxy is in chaos as has been shown by the Vong war. If it had been unified, if it had been strong, the Vong wouldn't have been as successful as they were. As a result, it needs a single mind, single force, a single will, which is the Sith, to bring order to it."
The creative team will also be re-examining the galaxy itself. A galaxy that started as a utopia, only to be ravaged by war, an oppressive Imperial regime, and more war, before being fractured, invaded, and ultimately shattered. "We'll be drawing on different wars, different battles, and what happens after wars. How things fall apart," Ostrander explains. What has the galaxy been like in the past hundred years? From the time of the Clone Wars up to Legacy of the Force there's rarely been more than a few years of peace in the galaxy. So what has this done to the galaxy? That too leaves a legacy." Ostrander is quick to point out that the concept of legacy is not only the series' title, but a dominant theme as well. "We're looking at a lot of different legacies - the legacy of the Empire, the legacy of the Sith, the legacy of the Jedi, the legacies left by all this war."

[DarthSolo]

I am quite looking forward to this!

[Tresk Im'nel]

I am quite looking forward to this!

Me too. Should be interesting. :)

[Whuffa]

Wow, I really like the authors' way of thinking. I am reaaaaly looking forward to this!

[JMAS]

Originally posted by Ripley+Apr 14 2006, 05:22 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ripley @ Apr 14 2006, 05:22 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-DarthSolo@Apr 13 2006, 09:15 PM
I've never owned a graphic novel in my life.* I've read a couple in passing, but never owned one.* How much can we expect these to cost?
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On average a single issue is about the upper $2ish range for a 35 issue comic. Trade Paperback price depends on how many issues are in the book. They can be anywhere between $10-$20 for a TPB. Larger TPBs like the one upcoming mega X-Wing or the Marvel reprints, which have around 10-15 issues, are around $35.
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[/b][/quote]

What ya need to do, if you can wait, is go to a comic con in your area. You'll always find incredible comic deals, both on individual issues and TPBs. I went to the one in Seatle a couple weeks ago with a buddy, and one booth had all TPBs at 50% off. When I asked about Star Wars, he made me a deal of 6 TPBs for $25 bucks. The retail price on them was $20 a piece.

[stoyboy720]

Anybody know the release date of Issue #0? I know it's May, just wondering what day.

[csr74]

What luvinna has posted is interesting....seems that some kind of agreement might be reached?

[RedMirax]

Isn't that kind of what Anakin thought he was doing, too. Saving the galaxy and bringing peace?

[JMAS]

Legacy #0 (http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=13-514)

[DarthSolo]

Picked up #0. Some interesting stuff. Gotta say, I'm a little unimpressed with the lack of creativity in a lot of the character names. The names, and a lot of the characters, seem to be stereotypes, with little thought behind them, but that could simply be because it is only an introduction. We'll see, I suppose with the actual comic coming out.

Also, kinda bored with the idea of the Empire being the enemy again, though at least it has a somewhat new and interesting dynamic.

Overall, some really cool developments, and some room for some really corny stuff. Or maybe I'm just skeptical of comics...

[Ripley]

<span style='color:blue'>Major Legacy #0 spoilers.
<div onClick="openClose('71bb54e2225c144b333e5e2cb92def19')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="71bb54e2225c144b333e5e2cb92def19" style="display:none">The Galactic Alliance no longers exist, being conquered by the Empire after the events of the Sith-Imperial War. The Alliance was using Yuuzhan Vong biotech to help rebuild worlds when the Sith, who were allied with the Empire, sabotaged worlds being terraformed with Yuuzhan Vong biotech. That started up a secessionist movement within the Alliance, leading many worlds to return to Imperial rule. War begins between the Alliance and the Imperials, ending the Imperial conquest of Coruscant. The Jedi Order retreats to Ossus until the Sith attacks the Temple there, then turning on the Empire. Kol Skywalker, Cade's father and a member of the Council, is killed during the decimation.

The Empire is currently being ruled by Emperor Roan Fel, the third emperor from the Fel Dynasty. He is a former Imperial Knight(Jedi who are loyal to the Imperial government). A new ship serving the Empire is the Pellaeon-class Super Star Destroyer. Princess Marasiah Fel is the heir-apparent to the Imperial throne, which some Moffs question the ability of a woman to rule the Empire. Members of the current Moff Council are Nyna Calixte, a female who was the former head of Imperial Intelligence; Moff Morlish Veed, a military and politcal genius with his eyes set on the Throne; and Moff Ruff Yage, a hardliner who commanded the Imperial force at the Massacre of Ossus. You see Chiss in Imperial uniforms along with the 501st still being the iron fist of Imperial rule.

So there are some major spoilers for ya.</div></span>

[Master Magnus]

^Thanks for the spoilers, Ripley. Hmm... IMHO it seems as if they've taken things too far, but I'm really not into comics anyway. I guess I'll have to wait and see how things turns out.

[DarthSolo]

Originally posted by Ripley@Jun 7 2006, 02:43 PM
<span style='color:blue'>
<div onClick="openClose('b4a41c5e6b7fcbfdb24af126f4235ae6')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="b4a41c5e6b7fcbfdb24af126f4235ae6" style="display:none">. You see Chiss in Imperial uniforms
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I don't remember seeing that. What page was it?

[nathanmcmaster11]

Star Wars: Legacy #0 was released today. Costing twenty-five cents in the U.S., this is an introductry handbook for the new Star Wars comic series, set 140 years after the movies... and it looks utterly, gob-smackingly amazing! Please just discuss it here and-now in this Forum, and in this thread. And if thats just whetted your appetite (which it will), Newsarama has a wide ranging interview with series creator John Ostrander, illistrated with some awsome art from the series by Jan Duurseema. And also fill free to talk about the interview in this thread. And remember, Legacy #1 is out on 21st June, in less than three weeks time!

[Ripley]

DS, I got it mixed up with this preview from issue one. (http://www.newsarama.com/Dark_Horse/Star_Wars/Legacy/Legacy02.htm)

I must say my reaction to issue zero is that Ostrander appears to have brought a new subtlety in the form of legacies to Star Wars. DS says the characters names is lack of creativity, but they are in fact expanding on the conept of legacy. Legacy, as defined by dictionary.com, is "something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor from the past." There are over ten references to characters from all of the previous eras of Star Wars history expressed in name selection. Some are obvious like Emperor Roan Fel and the Vao twins while others are more subtle like Jariah Syn and Deliah Blue. Those name selections add another layer of depth to Legacy already. Ostrander shows he knows the history of the GFFA, and the well versed EU reader can gain enjoyment as the actions of the character is juxaposed aganst the actions of the original. Little tidbits like that adds shows that Ostrander is a mature writer that has put a lot of thought into his work.

Going along with the legacy theme is the information leaked about the Jedi and Imperial Knights. That appears to be a legacy of the division of the Order. The pro-government and anti-government factions eventually split. Are these factions as one sided as the presentation in the Dark Nest novels or is there a new sympathy for the anti-governmentals since they are no longer on the payroll of the government? How moral are the Imperial Knights since they supports a repressive government? Ostrander appears to have taken the intital divide and actually made it interesting.

One thing that interests me the most is how the Empire deals with the legacy of the New Order. In latest Insider issue Ostrander describes the Empire as "not as inherently evil, but it's not a republic, not a democracy." Factoids about the controversy over Princess Marasiah Fel being heir-apparent conjures the anti-female policies of the New Order, despite aliens now activiely serving in the Imperial military. Ostrander has brought up some interesting issues to say the least.

Over in art land, Duursema and Parsons remain at the top of the game. The legacy of excellence the two brought to Republic appears to continue on. The frames are crisp and clear, showing the reader the actions with extreme clairity. While I do not mind Knights of the Old Republic's art, it is leagues below the Duursema/Parsons beauty. The art is a perfect match to Ostrander's prose.

Issue zerop impressed me greatly. Coming from a team that adds a great knowledge of the GFFA along with solid storytelling, Legacy looks like it could be the crown jewel of the EU. I cannot wait till issue one comes out.

[DarthSolo]

Originally posted by Ripley@Jun 7 2006, 05:52 PM
[color=blue]DS, I got it mixed up with this preview from issue one. (http://www.newsarama.com/Dark_Horse/Star_Wars/Legacy/Legacy02.htm)

Awesome nonetheless!
I must say my reaction to issue zero is that Ostrander appears to have brought a new subtlety in the form of legacies to Star Wars. DS says the characters names is lack of creativity, but they are in fact expanding on the conept of legacy. Legacy, as defined by dictionary.com, is "something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor from the past." There are over ten references to characters from all of the previous eras of Star Wars history expressed in name selection. Some are obvious like Emperor Roan Fel and the Vao twins while others are more subtle like Jariah Syn and Deliah Blue.
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It wasn't those names I was referring to, specifically. I do like the references to Fel and Vao and whatnot. it's some of the other names: "Shado" for instance is just missing a 'w'. The drawing makes him look like one of those guys who hangs out in the shadows. Was corny to me. Also "Wolf Sazen" is a nice and wolf-looking guy: woulda liked some more creativity there. "Queen Jool" likes jewlery. Cmon. "Darth Stryfe", though I can let that go, cuz Sith names have generally drawn on those type of parallels. Anyway, not big complaints, but possible signs of corniness in the series. IMO, comics struggle not to be corny, so we shall see what happens.

Other than that, I agree with Ripley: this series has a lot of potential.

[Darth Chrisious]

In the UK I reckon I should be able to get it within a couple of days hopefully.

[Luvinna]

Ooh! This has all been looking very promising. :D I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for more spoilers before deciding if I want to get the TPB when it comes out.

[DarthSolo]

One of the most intriguing things issue 0 brought to my attention was some of the events that it described. I don't know if the Legacy comic story arc will cover the Yuuzhan Vong project being sabatoged and the rebellion of the empire (HA!) and the formation of the Imperial Knights and the Sith's role in all that, but if it isn't taken care of in the comics, it is definitley good material for the books. Props to Legacy for creating an interesting history to look forward to...if that makes sense...HA!

[Master Magnus]

Specifics of the Legacy #0 issue can be discussed in the Star Wars: Legacy #0 (http://www.galacticsenate.com/index.php?showtopic=17261)-thread.

[Cassus Fett]

Originally posted by DarthSolo+Jun 7 2006, 11:16 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DarthSolo @ Jun 7 2006, 11:16 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Ripley@Jun 7 2006, 02:43 PM
<span style='color:blue'>
<div onClick="openClose('59e6207cc6e5b515ae2978b4c49e37c1')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="59e6207cc6e5b515ae2978b4c49e37c1" style="display:none">. You see Chiss in Imperial uniforms
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I don't remember seeing that. What page was it?
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Its the New Galactic Empire isnt it?

[DarthSolo]

For those who have read Betrayal:
<div onClick="openClose('46eb1df1be2c7d14474f88ef1baa4f5c')" style="font-weight: bold">[ Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide]</div><div id="46eb1df1be2c7d14474f88ef1baa4f5c" style="display:none">I wonder if/how Lumiya is connected to Darth Krayt. Krayt would have started operating somewhere around the NJO, so I thinkg Lumiya could have a connection with these Korriban Sith. Will Jacen come in contact with them?</div>

[Cassus Fett]

One question, is R2-D2 and C-3PO still around in the legacy era?

[DarthSolo]

Unknown. I would think not, but who knows.

I paged through the latest Insider today which featured the Sith. A couple of interesting things, Darth Krayt is wearing Yuuzhan Vong vonduun crab armor, or something similar. Darth Talon is a third generation Sith and has known nothing but the Sith Order. Just some interesting facts.

Do we know anything of Krayt's species? He looks like he could be human under the armor.

[Cassus Fett]

According to Wookiepedia

Presumed to be a Human male, his identity and his past is something he hid under Yuuzhan Vong bioengineered vonduun crab armor, and kept secret even from most of his own Sith companions.

[Darth Chrisious]

no luck yet in either of the comic book stores in my town, anyone got it yet?, what's it like?

edit: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kol_Skywalker some spoilers here

[DarthSolo]

It's just a bunch of blurbs about characters and setting along with visual. Quite interesting stuff, though I wish it could have been fleshed out more. That's what we'll get in the actual series, I suspect.

[Master Magnus]

I haven't had any luck finding it here in Sweden either and Amazon doesn't have it.

[Ripley]

Ostrander posted over at TFN that the first arc in the series is 13-14 issues long.

[Luvinna]

I hope I don't have to wait for all of them before the TPB comes out. :(

[Luvinna]

This is why I'm just going to wait for the TPB. It's way too much hastle to try to track down the individual comics.

[Master Magnus]

^Sounds like a good idea, Luv.

[Ripley]

Originally posted by Luvinna@Jun 11 2006, 08:57 AM
I hope I don't have to wait for all of them before the TPB comes out. :(
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Most standard TPBs are about six issues. Dark Horse will keep doing regular TPBs for the series due to most of the actual profit from the comic comes from TPB sales.

[jarjarsmeagol]

Originally posted by Luvinna@Jun 11 2006, 09:58 AM
This is why I'm just going to wait for the TPB. It's way too much hastle to try to track down the individual comics.
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I'd agree (if you don't have a nearby comic store that gets things in on time) but, seeing as Legacy #0 is informative non-fiction text, it probably wouldn't be collected in a TPB. It just wouldn't fit. Just in case, I would try to track this one down.

Here (http://www.tfaw.com/?qt=rd_tfaw.com)'s a good place on the internet to find comics. :)

[jarjarsmeagol]

Yeah. Thirteen issues would be a bit too long for a TPB (probably nearly the size of the big Star Wars: A Long Time Ago... TPB's). They'll probably separate the first story arc into two parts.

13-14 issues for one arc is pretty abnormal in the first place, though...

[Ripley]

Originally posted by jarjarsmeagol@Jun 11 2006, 10:51 AM
Yeah. Thirteen issues would be a bit too long for a TPB (probably nearly the size of the big Star Wars: A Long Time Ago... TPB's). They'll probably separate the first story arc into two parts.

13-14 issues for one arc is pretty abnormal in the first place, though...
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It's to introduce all of the characters, plots, etc.

[DarthSolo]

is #1 out yet?

[eddie]

A long time ago... (nope, it's out a couple of weeks now!)

[Galahad_Skywalker]

Not a bad set-up at all. Just read #1 last night, and I'm definitely looking forward to the next issues.

[kdy]

ya #1 was really cool, Kol looked like Wolverine, has anybody noticed? And also, i have a crazy theroy that Darth Krayt is Jacen, but im probably wrong

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/Kyp_Durron0/swleg1p3.jpg
Kol is wolverine!

[Galahad_Skywalker]

^I had the same sneaking suspicion myself, though I definitely hope I'm wrong.

I knew Kol looked familiar!

[Darth Chrisious]

I finallly got Issue No 0 and 1 at a comic book store in Camden town, London, mega-city comics on Inverness street

and I have to say it's an excellent story so far

[DarthSolo]

Read #1 and #2, and must say I'm enjoying it. The only critique I have is that the Krayt wanting to find and turn Cade is just a rehash of Palpy wanting to turn Luke. But that actually hasn't come much into play besides a quick mention.

I really liked the subtle parallel between Cade's decision to save his father and master and get revenge on the Sith with Princess Masasiah's reluctant decision against exacting vengeance. I wonder (hope) something comes of that. A future romance?

Oh, yeah. Darth Talon is sexy.

[matthius]

yesh! is number 2 out already? I just went to chapters an they still don't have it! is it out? /on a side not I feel sad that the jedi were just becom ing prosperose, 'again', and then slammed out again! can't the galaxy(and the jedi) just be peaceful for at least a thousand years without the sith mucking it up again?

[DarthSolo]

Yeah, #2 came out today. I picked it up at a local shop.

Haha, good point about the Jedi. I doubt it'll ever happen!

[Galahad_Skywalker]

Had no idea #2 was out. I have to get my hands on it now!

[Edgeomatic]

Just got #1 and #2 today. Darth Krayt is a pretty bad ass looking Sith.

[Vesper]

I'm not normally one for comics but these are interesting.

[DarthSolo]

I'm in the same boat, Vesper!

[Luvinna]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kypdurron000 @ Jul 4 2006, 10:37 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
ya #1 was really cool, Kol looked like Wolverine, has anybody noticed? And also, i have a crazy theroy that Darth Krayt is Jacen, but im probably wrong[/b][/quote]
That would make me laugh if it's true (note: I still haven't read these comics, but we all know Jacen's going dark style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif ), but I doubt it is. He'd be over 100 by now if he was. I have been known to be wrong, though. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif

[DarthSolo]

Well, at the beginning of #1, there was a monologue type o thing that made Krayt pretty old, but his POV was definetly not Jacen's. He was around, though, at the time of the YV war, so I'm wondering how connected he is to Jacen and Lumiya.

[Edgeomatic]

I know only two issues came out, but so far these are my favorite Star Wars comics!

[Darth Chrisious]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Luvinna @ Jul 15 2006, 01:20 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
That would make me laugh if it's true (note: I still haven't read these comics, but we all know Jacen's going dark style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif ), but I doubt it is. He'd be over 100 by now if he was. I have been known to be wrong, though. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif
[/b][/quote]
Darth Krayt mentioned that he'd been in stasis though

I think it would be a really good story, and I hope Krayt is Jacen

[Edgeomatic]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Chrisious @ Jul 15 2006, 12:38 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Darth Krayt mentioned that he'd been in stasis though

I think it would be a really good story, and I hope Krayt is Jacen
[/b][/quote]

I agree. I think it'll be cool to see it come down to Skywalker against Solo.

[DarthSolo]

I ultimately want to see Jacen come back to the light, so I hope he isn't Krayt, but I hope he is connected to the Sith somehow.

[Luvinna]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Chrisious @ Jul 15 2006, 10:38 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Darth Krayt mentioned that he'd been in stasis though

I think it would be a really good story, and I hope Krayt is Jacen
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You're kidding! style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Ok. I guess he could be Jacen.

[DarthSolo]

I don't think so.

it appears as though the old spoiler tags haven't made it back to the GS, soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo








SPOILERS BELOW







From the Holocron of Darth Krayt, Lord of the Sith (issue #1, pg 1): "Nearly a hundred years ago, the Yuuzhan Vong invaded, plunging the Galaxy into deep chaos -- bleeding and weakening it. Patient in teh Force, I waited, as the galaxy grew darker. I watched as teh invaders, finally defeated, were allowed to live in exile on the sentient planet, Zonama Sekot. A folly designed by the Jedi."

Jacen didn't "wait". He was active in the events described. Unless when Jacen turns Krayt he completely disconnects himself from Jacen, which I'll admit to be an interesting possibility, this can't be Jacen Solo talking.

[Ripley]

First three issues so far have been a blast. Also enjoyed the previews for five and six.

[Darth Massacrus]

I was happy to see that the 501st stayed loyal to the Emperor Fel III and not Krayt. and when are we going to see the Pelleaon class Super Star destroyers?? For the glory of the Empire!:holosid:

[JaggedFel1110]

Since SW.com is holding a 'name Sith Jacen' contest, I'm guessing he isn't Krayt. I;ve really enjoyed the seris so far, though I wonder if the plan is to continue the 'three per cover' thing they've been doing.

[Darth Massacrus]

I think we can all agree that the perfect Sith name for Jacen would be Darth Massacrus:innocent:

[DarthSolo]

Just picked up #4. It was really good. Though there were absolutely none of the previous main characters even mentioned in it, I loved the Stormtrooper perspectives. It was a good story to tell, and I hope that we see some of this squad in the future. Also, pretty cool to see another Sith, and how Krayt is keeping control of his troops.

Ripley, what previews are you talking about? Could you give us a link?

[eddie]

Legacy # 5 preview:

http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/preview.php?theid=13-457

[DarthSolo]

Thanks, eddie! That was great!

[DarthSolo]

I'd like to see some ideas on Krayt's identity. Anyone?

[Luvinna]

Well, I had another theory, but from what you posted here...
From the Holocron of Darth Krayt, Lord of the Sith (issue #1, pg 1): "Nearly a hundred years ago, the Yuuzhan Vong invaded, plunging the Galaxy into deep chaos -- bleeding and weakening it. Patient in the Force, I waited, as the galaxy grew darker. I watched as the invaders, finally defeated, were allowed to live in exile on the sentient planet, Zonama Sekot. A folly designed by the Jedi."
... it wouldn't work. I can't think of anyone who "watched" and "waited" during the NJO. That quote makes it sound like this is someone who's been Sith for a long time, even before the Yuuzhan Vong war, and was just waiting for his chance to take control, much like Palpatine did.

[DarthSolo]

See, it leads me to believe Lumiya has Darth Krayt on the side. Or maybe Darth Krayt got taken out somehow (by the YV?) forcing Lumiya (Krayt's apprentice?) to find Jacen for fear of Krayt not returning.

But that monologue doesn't necesarily imply that Krayt WAS a Sith at the time. It could still be Jacen, I think, because maybe Krayt was "watching and waiting" from within Jacen, waiting to overtake him, if that's how Krayt thinks of himself in relation to Jacen Solo now.

Just some thoughts!

[Darth Massacrus]

Well, Lord Massacrus can help. I think that if we were to create a list of every Force user that could possibly have been alive as of the Vong Invasion, or evrery prominent or known human male character whose activities are not known during the Vong War, but was alive then with even reasonable likelyhood, it could be possible to determine the identity of Krayt, or at least make some good guesses. Also, once the list is established, we could separate those who do fit with the patterns of behavior or beliefs exhibited by Krayt, such as beief in order, familiarity with the Jedi and Sith, strong combat skills, cunning, ect. I myself will begin with a list of characters who could have survived the Vong War, or those whose activities during said war are unknown:

a son or grandson of Quinlan Vos
Kir Kanos
another Fel
an apprentice of Agent Blackhole or clone
a Mandalorian soldier
Carnor Jax (survived by Sith Trance, like Ventress did)
a soldier of Admiral Daala

please expand upon this list

[DarthSolo]

A Mandolorian soldier? I guess, if he was Force-sensitive. Have we encountered any of those?

A Fel? The Fel family is not Force senstive at the time of the NJO. My thoughts are that Jaina and Jag create the first of the Force-sensitive Fels.

Admiral Daala had Force sensitives?

[JaggedFel1110]

A Mandolorian soldier? I guess, if he was Force-sensitive. Have we encountered any of those?


Not yet. However, if Skirata wound up taking care of Darman and Etain's child (and assuming the kid is Force-sensitive), then there's a good chance that he would have raised the child as a Mandalorian.

[Darth Massacrus]

what of the list? any other possibilities?
Personally, I hope it would be Kir Kanos being found to be Force Sensitive, or maybe even Carnor Jax...

As for Daala, her final fate has yet to be revealed, hell she could even be the person who returns in the next Legacy novel... but it is entirely possible that after her blind hyperspace jump she exited lightspeed into the territory of the former Sith Empire (worlds like Krayiss, Ashas Ree, Korriz, Ch'hodos, Rhelg, ect) and one of her soldiers discovered his Force sensitivity...

there are several currently 'unknown Fels', like did Chak Fel really die, what of the shadow child, ect

also, quinlan vos' son or grandson could be Krayt,

[Ripley]

I doubt Krayt would be a person we've heard of. The Etain child won't happen because of Randy's known dislike of Triple Zero.

[Konig15]

Not being someone who normally buys comics, I've been searching for this one? What kind of place, that I can look up in the yellow pages, sells Legacy 1-3 cause I've had no luck in the bookstores.

[Ripley]

Not being someone who normally buys comics, I've been searching for this one? What kind of place, that I can look up in the yellow pages, sells Legacy 1-3 cause I've had no luck in the bookstores.
Comic book store or you can probably do it online.

[matthius]

Not being someone who normally buys comics, I've been searching for this one? What kind of place, that I can look up in the yellow pages, sells Legacy 1-3 cause I've had no luck in the bookstores.
ebay's an easy place to get the whole set or individual ones

[JaggedFel1110]

Not being someone who normally buys comics, I've been searching for this one? What kind of place, that I can look up in the yellow pages, sells Legacy 1-3 cause I've had no luck in the bookstores.

Any comic book stores in your area should have it.
In the front of every Dark Horse comic book, they print the following:

Comic Shop Locator Service: (888) 266-4226


I've never had occasion to call the number myself, but it should help you find a comic store near you.

[Darth Massacrus]

...getting back to the Legacy comics, what did y'all think of my list of theories as to the identity of Darth Krayt?

[matthius]

...getting back to the Legacy comics, what did y'all think of my list of theories as to the identity of Darth Krayt?
those are good candidates and I hope that the identity of Krayt will turn out to be someone unexpected, I think it might just be a made up character though, the minimal amount of candidates just shows. hah! I just thought of....ok this is crazy.....but anakin solo's evil clone(i.e. he died in a cloning facility)!

[Ripley]

Dark Horse has the synopsis of #8 and #9. #8 is a one-shot about the events leading up and during the Sith-Imperial War with #9 starting off the Trust arc.

[Master Magnus]

Dark Horse has the synopsis of #8 and #9. #8 is a one-shot about the events leading up and during the Sith-Imperial War with #9 starting off the Trust arc.
Great! (I'm not into comics, but the Legacy era sounds interesting.) Do you have a link?

[eddie]

Legacy # 8:

http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=14-071


Legacy # 9:

http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=14-072

[Ripley]

The Dark Horse site also has the first TPB coming out in April.

[princess_leia]

IF THE STORYLINE OF STAR WARS WAS A LITTLE TWISTED?
HMMM LIKE LUKE N LEIA F****** EACH OTHER AND THEN LEIA GOT PREGNANT AND THEN FOUND OUT ABOUT LUKE BEIN HER BROTHER?

EWWWWWWWWWWW

THATS LIKE ANAKINVADER N LEIA SCREWIN!

[DarthSolo]

Uh...what?

[Jediwan]

Yeah, that was a little weird.

Does anyone know if there will be books written in this era?

[Luvinna]

How about we keep the thread on-topic, hmmm? :howdy:

[princess_leia]

LOL WHAT I MEAN IS.......LETS JUST SAY THAT GEORGE LUCAS DECIDED TO MAKE THE "STAR WARS" STORY A LITTLE BIT "TWISTED"

LIKE IN A NEW HOPE, THE SCENE WHERE LUKE SAYS TO SOLO"SO, WHAT U THINK OF HER"..THEN HE SAYS"IM TRYIN NOT 2"

THEN HE SAYS "GOOD".....LOL WE ALL KNEW HE LIKED HER...AFTER WHEN HAN SOLO SAID"STILL, SHE HAS ALOT OF SPIRIT"...LOL U TOTALLY SAW THAT LUKE HAD THE "JEALOUSY" LOOK ON HIS FACE........

I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AWESOME....IF LUKE AND LEIA SCREWED EACH OTHER...LEIA GOT PREGNANT...THEN FOUND OUT THATS THEY WERE BROTHER AND SISTER!...LOL IT WOULD HAVE BEEN "EWWW AND FUNNY AT THE SAME TIME"

[Jediwan]

Why are you talking about this here? This is a thread for Star Wars: Legacy, not "Star Wars: Twisted". Also, please stop using caps, it's extremely annoying.

[princess_leia]

okay im really sorry...i'll make it up 2 you.....somehow......

please forgive me master?

[matthius]

did you just mash the keyboard in a drunken furry when you came on this site (and this thread)or is it just me?

[Master Magnus]

Legacy # 8:

http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=14-071


Legacy # 9:

http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=14-072
Ah, thanks eddie!

[Darth Massacrus]

good job eddie! Anyone read the most recent comic, with Krayt exploring old Sith Holocrons? Makes you wonder just what Lord Nihilus was trying to tell him...

[matthius]

Anyone other then me think Anakin Solo's clone could be a good candidate to the true identity of Krayt.

[Darth Massacrus]

I think carnor jax or Kir Kanos are better, but an Anakin clone is possible...

[Luvinna]

Oh, please, no! I've been going back and reading my notes from the EU panels at C3 and Anakin Solo is one topic they wouldn't discuss, other than to say, "Anything's possible."

So, I guess anything's possible. :ugh:

[Darth Chrisious]

I doubt Anakin Solo, I thikn he will stay dead, maybe come back as a ghost a few times though, but yeah, anything's possible

I'm still not 100% ruling out Jacen, after he somehow is transfused with the Yuuzhan Vong armour he be could reinvented as a new sith lord, unlikely but you never know.

anyway, is issue No 6 still on schedule for 22nd November, strange there's no further press release yet is all.

[Ripley]

Oh, please, no! I've been going back and reading my notes from the EU panels at C3 and Anakin Solo is one topic they wouldn't discuss, other than to say, "Anything's possible."

So, I guess anything's possible. :ugh:
I really doubt it will be Anakin. Since a lot of you guys are new to EU comics I need to point something out. Legacy, Dark Empire, and X-Wing Rogue Squadron are the only real major EU comics that has repercussions in the novels and vice-versa. Essentially the comics and novels are almost two different universes. The comics would not have major continuity issues if the novels were declared infinities, and the novels would not have very many if the comics were declared infinities. Just saying that all these examples coming from just the novels probably will not happen at all.

[Darth Chrisious]

http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=13-458

legacy 6 delayed a week

laaaaaaaaaaammmmmmeeeeeeeeee

anyone know why all the delays?

[TuskenRaider1]

Correct me if Im wrong, but Jacen can't be Krayt. They are having a darthwho contest to name Jacen, so unless he changes his sith name, doesnt that kinda contradict?

[Luvinna]

Yes. We know. We briefly discussed this a couple pages back right after the contest announcement was made.

Though it was suggested that he could change his Sith name. I think it's unlikely, but I suppose it is possible.

[TuskenRaider1]

See, I read the thread, but this has been a thread ongoing for quite a while (time wise) so I forgot said discussion. Thanks for the reminder.

[Darth Massacrus]

Kir Kanos and Carnor Jax must return!

[matthius]

^^^ I have to say those are good hopeful characters to be Krayt, but it would be real random and not that clever of a secret identity revealed.

[DarthSolo]

I am frustrated. I missed #5's release, and haven't been able to get it. ARG!

[TuskenRaider1]

i think you can order it online from Dark Horse directly or the SW shop at SW.com right?

[Darth Chrisious]

There's a few on ebay Got issue No 6, totally awesome, not as good as 5 but I think the story will really get going now. Annoying that No 7 doesn't come out until January though

[DarthSolo]

Ok, I gotta do some online shopping for these.

BTW, A reference in Tempest kind of implies that Krayt and company are already formed up during LOTF. Thoughts?

[Darth Massacrus]

Darth Massacrus with the best theory yet as to the identity of Lord Krayt:

Ken! you know, Palpatine's Grandson and a Force sensitive fellow who, like Krayt, knew the Jedi of old...

wouldnt that be a revelation! And the best part of it is that its entirely possible!

[DarthSolo]

Eh, from what I've read about him, Ken is a pretty flimsy character. Also, he'd be pushing 130 years old by that time, which is old even for Star Wars standards. I'm not buying it. I still think we haven't met Krayt.

[Cydon]

Ya know what? I don't buy it either!!

[matthius]

lol, ken would be a hilarious candidate

[Cydon]

I concur.

[Darth Massacrus]

and the likelihood of Ken being Krayt is entirely possible, though...

[Cydon]

I don't favor that theory.

[DarthSolo]

Ken's candidacy is no more likely than Jacen's I think. In fact, Ken's candidacy is no more likely (in fact, probably less likely) than any unacounted for Force-user at the time. I say less likely because Ken's character is a weak character. Not to mention age improbabilities. As well, why would the writers recycle old characters when they have a monumentous occasion to create something new?

[Darth Massacrus]

But Kens potential to be Darth Krayt is high. He knew the Jedi of old. His family was strong in the darkside. he is unnaccounted for well before 30 ABY. He is a human male. And he is of the right age. And also, who better to be the first Sith Lord to rule the galaxy since Palpatine than his own Grandson...

[matthius]

The idea of Palpatine having a son was a bad idea enough, re-enforcing it in the Legacy era would be a disaster. Also considering not many fans like the Jedi Prince series or even consider it secondhand canon(there is some people that I'm sure like it, but definetly not me).

[Darth Massacrus]

still, but that was Ken THEN. Krayt is Ken NOW...

[DarthSolo]

No, he is not. At least, there is absolutely no proof to support that theory. It's pure speculation, as is every other name we put out there.

[TuskenRaider1]

Remind me, Krayt is decendent of Skywalker line or just a Sith, cuz you know, Rayner could be fun....then again, they already did that. Who knows, itll be someone we get introduced to in the LoTF series in book 7-9 or something.

[DarthSolo]

We've no idea who Krayt is (despite people's theories). All we know is that he is a Sith.

[Darth Massacrus]

Krayt is a Sith LORD, you mean. not a Sith, for he is human:lol:

[DarthSolo]

We think he is human, actually. Not necesarily confirmed, that I know of. That armour covers a lot of him!

Anyway, i finally got my hands on 5 and 6. Good stuff. Good to see Cade meeting up with Sazen again, some hardcore Jedi/Sith/Imperial Knight action going on at the end of #6. Can't wait for 7!

[Ripley]

Krayt is a Sith LORD, you mean. not a Sith, for he is human:lol:
All we know is that he is a bipedal humanoid that fancies Yuuzhan Vong armour.

[DarthSolo]

And that is uber-pissed about some sort of Yuuzhan Vong bio-infection.